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Posted by Dinah on July 28, 2008, at 16:37:30
At the end of today's introductory session, the hypnotherapist did what I recognized as one of the tests to determine hypnotizability. I pretty much flunked it. She talked afterwards about how even a light trance could cause positive changes, even if a person was totally aware of their surroundings and didn't feel like they were in a trance at all. I figure she was downgrading my expectations, and trying to make the positive suggestion that I'd find it useful anyway.
I did make another appointment with her, but later discovered that I have another doctor's appointment at that time so I will call and cancel. If I still think it might be useful by the time my son goes back to school, I'll call for an appointment then.
I neither liked nor disliked her. She appeared blank now and then, so I asked if what I was saying made sense. She said that she was used to the way people with OCD spoke. How they talked in circles, with the important stuff at the beginning or end. I tried for the next little while to take the middle out of what I was saying, but it was too hard so I left her to sort it out.
That's the thing I remember most, so it must have annoyed me.
Posted by raisinb on July 28, 2008, at 18:35:57
In reply to Another hope bites the dust :), posted by Dinah on July 28, 2008, at 16:37:30
Ag, I'm sorry it was disappointing. I hate it when people look blank, and that OCD comment sounds slightly judgmental.
I'd probably give it one more try too. It's totally possible the next one will accomplish something.
Posted by Looney Tunes on July 28, 2008, at 18:56:18
In reply to Another hope bites the dust :), posted by Dinah on July 28, 2008, at 16:37:30
Hmm...I never heard that ~"OCD talk????"
So basically she was only listening to your first and last words?
That would have pissed me off and I would have said "T, read in between this F*ck you"...First and last words. (Sorry, couldn't help it)Maybe you "flunked" because you did not feel real connected to her. I would think to be hypontized by someone, you really need to feel connected because it is a level of trust needed to let your guard down.
Posted by Phillipa on July 29, 2008, at 10:56:32
In reply to Another hope bites the dust :), posted by Dinah on July 28, 2008, at 16:37:30
Dinah you didn't flunk??? How can you flunk a theraphy? I was once at a hypnotherapist and didn't go under. Some people just don't. And I've not heard of OCD talk. What did she mean. I feel she failed and blamed you???? Not everyone can be hypnotised you didn't fail in my opinion. Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on July 29, 2008, at 11:43:49
In reply to Re: Another hope bites the dust :) » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on July 29, 2008, at 10:56:32
She didn't say I'd flunked. I just knew about the test from my reading, so I realized that I hadn't done well. It's supposed to be pretty reliable and pretty consistent through a lifetime.
I didn't much like the comment about talking in a circular fashion. :( A comment like that on the first session with a new client is not exactly rapport-building.
Posted by Dinah on July 29, 2008, at 11:46:00
In reply to Re: Another hope bites the dust :), posted by Looney Tunes on July 28, 2008, at 18:56:18
I asked my therapist today if he thought I talked in a circular fashion. He said he'd never thought of my speech in that way, and he'd have to listen more closely to see if he thought she was right.
Not precisely the answer I would have hoped for.
Posted by Dinah on July 29, 2008, at 11:52:21
In reply to Re: Another hope bites the dust :) » Dinah, posted by raisinb on July 28, 2008, at 18:35:57
I don't really want to go back to her.
My therapist had spoken briefly to her on the phone and said he hadn't been overly impressed. He thinks I should try again with someone else. Be a bit more discriminating in my phone interviews. And to go in as emotional me rather as rational me.
I'm not particularly inclined to try again. That test is supposed to be pretty reliable. :(
I also talked with my therapist about the fact that I dislike so many mental health professionals. In fact, I've only liked two. I like him, and I liked my son's play therapist. He laughed and said that was really a pretty good percentage and that his results might not be all that different.
Posted by Lemonaide on July 29, 2008, at 12:53:48
In reply to Re: Another hope bites the dust :) » raisinb, posted by Dinah on July 29, 2008, at 11:52:21
I kind had a feeling that this would be the result of the meeting. I think sometimes our results can be off if we investigate too much on what we can expect. You shouldn't of even known the about the test. Knowing too much is not a good thing sometimes. Sometimes you have to give up some of the control for others to help you. I mean this in the best way, I care about you.
Posted by Phillipa on July 29, 2008, at 12:57:21
In reply to Re: Another hope bites the dust :) » Phillipa, posted by Dinah on July 29, 2008, at 11:43:49
Dinah maybe I'm dense but I don't understand OCD talk. Did she mean you were anxious manybe and talked in circles and couldn't focus? Phillipa
Posted by Dinah on July 29, 2008, at 13:26:23
In reply to Re: Another hope bites the dust :), posted by Lemonaide on July 29, 2008, at 12:53:48
I don't think I'm totally against giving up control. For example, if my therapist told me he wanted me to do something because he asked me to, I'd probably be able to do that with him.
I'm not sure I'm capable of just allowing something to happen without having a running internal commentary on it. Especially not with a virtual stranger. That's why my therapist now thinks I should give a try at going in as emotional me. But he also thinks it's probably a good idea not to go back to her. To try someone else and hope for a better connection.
I'm not particularly inclined to do that right now. Besides, if the whole thing relies on my believing it works, whether or not it does, it's pretty much doomed for me to begin with. I'm *not* terribly suggestible in that way.
Posted by Dinah on July 29, 2008, at 13:29:02
In reply to Re: Another hope bites the dust :) » Dinah, posted by Phillipa on July 29, 2008, at 12:57:21
I don't know precisely what she means.
She knows that I have been diagnosed with OCD. She apparently thought I was talking in circles. And she apparently connects the two.
No one else has ever complained that I talk in circles, except maybe when I'm trying to figure something out when my thoughts often lead in circles. But at those times, I doubt I say anything worthwhile at the beginning or end either. I do know I have trouble communicating. I've just never heard it referred to in those terms.
I'm really not sure what exactly she meant. But I am pretty sure I'm offended.
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