![[dr. bob]](/dr-bob-sm.gif)
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.orgShown: posts 1 to 4 of 4. This is the beginning of the thread.
Posted by dj on February 6, 2001, at 18:56:39
Someone sent me this yesterday. It doesn't use the word karma but it describes what some seem to envision karma as... How much truth there is to it and how it applies to depression I don't know but I'd be interested to hear some succinct comments/thoughts from others here on this...
"The Echo of Life"
A man and his son were walking in the forest. Suddenly the boy trips and feeling a sharp pain.
He screams, "Ahhhhh."
Surprised, he hears a voice coming from the mountain, "Ahhhhh!"
Filled with curiosity, he screams: "Who are you?",
but the only answer he receives is: "Who are you?"This makes him angry, so he screams: "You are a coward!",and the voice answers: "You are a coward!"
He looks at his father, asking, "Dad what is going on?"
"Son", the man replies, "pay attention!" Then he screams, "I admire you!"
The voice answers: "I admire you!"
The father shouts, "You are wonderful!",
and the voice answers: "You are wonderful!"The boy is surprised, but still can't understand what is going on.
Then the father explains, "People calls this 'ECHO', but truly it is'LIFE!'
Life always gives you back what you give out!
Life is a mirror of your actions.
If you want more love, give more love!
If you want more kindness, give more kindness!
If you want understanding and respect, give understanding and respect!
If you want people to be patient and repectful to you, give patience and respect!
This rules of nature applies to every aspect of our life.
Life always gives you back what you give out.
Your life is not a coincidence, but a mirror of your own doings."
Anonymous
For a beautiful visual version of this check out:
dobhran.nbci.com/greetings/GRinspire220.htm
Posted by phil15 on February 6, 2001, at 20:56:28
In reply to Karma - something to ponder, Phill5 and..., posted by dj on February 6, 2001, at 18:56:39
Thats pretty interesting, ive went through a depressive mode in which i studied the "occult", the "divine wisdom", and the Kaballa. It mentions Karma, but this type of metaphoric description you found was really symbolized Karma in a very intersting and comprehensible matter.
I agree with it in that what comes around goes around, but i have noticed many times that good, kind, and generous people get exploited and picked on. (i.e. those nuns who went to help out people in some repressive nation ended up getting shot by the government because of it) Which really doesn't show karma in action. So when will their kindness be repaid? Since it seems that not always is karma repaid in our life time,it kinda seems to lead to more supernatural explaination in order to recieve goodness or badness people have done, like: In their next life(if reincarnation is true)? Or in heaven (if that is true)?
By the way, you have found many interesting quotes etc., how do you come across all these things?
Posted by dj on February 6, 2001, at 21:02:25
In reply to Re: Karma - something to ponder, Phill5 and..., posted by phil15 on February 6, 2001, at 20:56:28
> By the way, you have found many interesting quotes etc., how do you come across all these >things?
Sometimes I spend too much time reading, pondering and obsessing on-line and off and that's where I come across some of this stuff - over time... Check my above note for some potential sources. Some interesting info. at the Undoing Depression website.
cheers,
dj
Posted by Todd on February 7, 2001, at 23:02:45
In reply to Karma - something to ponder, Phill5 and..., posted by dj on February 6, 2001, at 18:56:39
That is a beautifully written piece. I am a firm believer in karma. In my younger days, I really felt karma was punishment. Do something good and you are rewarded. Do something bad and you get something bad in return, in punishment for your bad deeds. Problem with that kind of logic is that you aren't always tangibly "rewarded" by a good deed. And if you fear getting something bad in return and you keep doing good to avoid that, you become more and more frustrated that you're not getting rewarded. Pressure builds, life sucks. I think the key here is doing good out of fear.
As I learn and grow, I am beginning to realize that as long as we try to keep our intents pure, we never get "punished" for doing "bad" things. It's just that, as in the above post, whatever it is that we believe ourselves to be, we get that reflected back at us, as in an echo. We may not see it right away, but everything we send out has a way of finding its way back to us to challenge us as we grow. I think that's what karma is all about. If you feel guilty, even for something you shouldn't be guilty for, the world will take that guilt and run with it, making you feel even more guilty. Or a more positive example, if you feel that you are a capable, responsible person and present yourself as such, the world will view you as being capable and responsible. However, if deep down inside you still feel irresponsible, it will show and sure as rain, people will view you that way, no matter how hard you try to convince them otherwise.
You always get what you feel you deserve. I think we all just need to believe in ourselves as much as we can, and to love ourselves in all of our imperfections. Easier said than done, but it's definitely doable. Peace and love.
Todd
This is the end of the thread.
Psycho-Babble Social | Extras | FAQ
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.org
Script revised: February 4, 2008
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-17 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.