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Posted by Krazy Kat on September 20, 2001, at 16:13:09
Sar:
Have just realized (I haven't been terribly sharp lately)that I'm speaking my mind more often mostly to my hubby and that it is driving him crazy. This kind of fits into the "bitch" thread. I also question him right away if i think something he said is wrong, where I would have held back before.
I mentioned this when it finally dawned on me, and he said "It's good, but it takes getting used to." So he's supportive, but...
That might be what a lot of it is. The shock.
What's happening with the Neurontin? I'm sleeping WAY TOO MUCH on the Depakote and having horrible dreams again (nightmares have always haunted me). It's helped, but I'm too medicated I think. But then I was under medicated on the Neurontin so I don't know again. Have to see. I liked the Neurontin because it was so easy on my system.
- Kelly
Posted by sar on September 21, 2001, at 12:46:37
In reply to Speaking Your Mind - Sar and everyone, posted by Krazy Kat on September 20, 2001, at 16:13:09
> Sar:
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> Have just realized (I haven't been terribly sharp lately)that I'm speaking my mind more often mostly to my hubby and that it is driving him crazy. This kind of fits into the "bitch" thread. I also question him right away if i think something he said is wrong, where I would have held back before.good for you! i'm sure it is driving him crazy, sudden changes in personality are difficult for our loved ones to accept...
> I mentioned this when it finally dawned on me, and he said "It's good, but it takes getting used to." So he's supportive, but...
yeeeee! a cyber-toast to the celebration of Kat-y-ness or what have you...
> That might be what a lot of it is. The shock.one of my oldest friends called me a "crazy fucking bitch" several months ago when Prozac created a spine for me; we'd been friends for 9 years and he'd never seen me like this before, he took offense to it, though i was doing nothing wrong. i was being strong instead of submissive. he didn't know how to take it...and we're no longer friends.
> What's happening with the Neurontin? I'm sleeping WAY TOO MUCH on the Depakote and having horrible dreams again (nightmares have always haunted me). It's helped, but I'm too medicated I think. But then I was under medicated on the Neurontin so I don't know again. Have to see. I liked the Neurontin because it was so easy on my system.
how much depakote are you on? do you think lowering the dose would help? neurontin i like, though i tapered up to 600 mg wednesday and have been tired tired tired! i go up to 900 mg next wednesday, hope i can stay awake for it! did neurontin quit qorking for you, or was it just not enough? that's why i chose it over depakote, i've read that it can be quite a strain to take (as you are experiencing)--i'm sorry, bay...
> - Kellyanother alias!! or is this the real name?
have a good one,
sar
Posted by Krazy Kat on September 23, 2001, at 11:45:23
In reply to Re: Speaking Your Mind - Sar and everyone » Krazy Kat , posted by sar on September 21, 2001, at 12:46:37
Sar:
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> yeeeee! a cyber-toast to the celebration of Kat-y-ness or what have you...--- I feel much more like I was in college right now. Keep waiting for it to dissipate, which is so sad, isn't it. That lurking fear of depression...
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> one of my oldest friends called me a "crazy fucking bitch" several months ago when Prozac created a spine for me; we'd been friends for 9 years and he'd never seen me like this before, he took offense to it, though i was doing nothing wrong. i was being strong instead of submissive. he didn't know how to take it...and we're no longer friends.
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--- I'm sorry about this, but as one of my friend's pointed out, it's best to let some people in your life go. I'm glad you're no longer friends - can you imagine how dysfunctional that would be?
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> how much depakote are you on? do you think lowering the dose would help? neurontin i like, though i tapered up to 600 mg wednesday and have been tired tired tired! i go up to 900 mg next wednesday, hope i can stay awake for it! did neurontin quit qorking for you, or was it just not enough? that's why i chose it over depakote, i've read that it can be quite a strain to take (as you are experiencing)--i'm sorry, bay...--- Had a good Dr.'s appt. yesterday. Am on 1,000 mg of Dep. Got in BIG trouble because haven't had my labs done yet. Am going off Topamax b/c it could be adding to sedation.
Neurontin on its own was not enough for me, but I know it has been for some folks on the board so I would give it a try. Hopefully the Prozac will counteract the sedation. Was starting to have "manic" or "hypomanic" or "whatever" episodes within weeks of each other and then a major depressive episode about a month ago. I went to see my pdoc, said "I want to go into the hospital until something can be found that will make me feel better for a longer time than the past meds, and he gave me Depakote. Helped almost immediately. I don't know if it will continue... I hope so, of course. Had to get "hysterical" to get helped, it seems. :)
Mix of Topamax and Neurontin did help for awhile.
- Kelly (real name - that's when the meds are working and keeping everyone in line. ;) )-- How's your guy?
Posted by sar on September 23, 2001, at 22:44:49
In reply to Re: Speaking Your Mind - Sar and everyone, posted by Krazy Kat on September 23, 2001, at 11:45:23
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> --- I feel much more like I was in college right now. Keep waiting for it to dissipate, which is so sad, isn't it. That lurking fear of depression...what do you mean? i always think that when it subsides i'll be okay, yes yes i'll be okay one day even though depression is indelibly etched into my heart, i fear the black holes, i fear the dysphoria...do you consider yourself depressed right now?
> --- I'm sorry about this, but as one of my friend's pointed out, it's best to let some people in your life go. I'm glad you're no longer friends - can you imagine how dysfunctional that would be?
it had been dysfunctional for a long time, i just didn't realize it until sanity struck me one day in march when i started prozac. it makes me sad that i endured what i did; it makes me sad that i miss him; it makes me sad that we will probably never speak again.
but it's okay...
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> --- Had a good Dr.'s appt. yesterday. Am on 1,000 mg of Dep. Got in BIG trouble because haven't had my labs done yet. Am going off Topamax b/c it could be adding to sedation.what is the topomax for? blood labs, you mean?
> Neurontin on its own was not enough for me, but I know it has been for some folks on the board so I would give it a try. Hopefully the Prozac will counteract the sedation. Was starting to have "manic" or "hypomanic" or "whatever" episodes within weeks of each other and then a major depressive episode about a month ago. I went to see my pdoc, said "I want to go into the hospital until something can be found that will make me feel better for a longer time than the past meds, and he gave me Depakote. Helped almost immediately. I don't know if it will continue... I hope so, of course. Had to get "hysterical" to get helped, it seems. :)how would you describe a hypomanic phase, or being "hysterical"? neurontin has sedated me some, but mostly i feel real real chill, and it's good...
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> - Kelly (real name - that's when the meds are working and keeping everyone in line. ;) )
ah!...i'll post my real name when i feel myself most again and when the anonymity issue doesn't scare me as much! my initials are S.A.R...
> -- How's your guy?yeeee, you remembered you crazy broad!, it's turning out really well, he's very affectionate and giving. neurontin + boyfriend have augmented my cocktail quite nicely. :)
love,
sar
Posted by Krazy Kat on September 24, 2001, at 10:37:23
In reply to Re: Speaking Your Mind - Sar and everyone » Krazy Kat , posted by sar on September 23, 2001, at 22:44:49
I realize now that the depression is going to keep coming back. Reading Noonday Demon actually helped bang that into my head. The cycles won't stop completely, they'll just get fewer and further in between hopefully.
I want to set up a core of supporters to help me handle it next time, but I have a hard time asking for help.
I feel quite good right now. Not depressed and have not had a manic episode in about a month and a half. Just tired.
Topamax is another mood stabilizer - it's newer. An anti-convalusant (sp?). AKC was trying it, too. Where has she been?
Hypomanic phase for me - not sleeping for anywhere from a couple of days to five or so days. I get really wired, often irritable, kind of act like I'm on speed, talk fast, process things too quickly, so I can't concentrate, sometimes psychotic features like seeing ghosts.
Recently, I was cycling more and more, and it kind of seemed to be getting mixed together. My pdoc labeled me last time as rapid cycling.
By hysterical, I just mean I went in crying and sort of threatening, saying I am having suicidal thoughts this time, I am ready to just jump in the car and start moving (I always just want to run away from everything), and you better do something fast, no more of this waiting around 4 - 6 weeks. And he did.
I think I would always have to call you Sar.
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Posted by sar on September 26, 2001, at 13:14:18
In reply to Glad the Neurontin + Boyfriend are helping... » sar, posted by Krazy Kat on September 24, 2001, at 10:37:23
> I realize now that the depression is going to keep coming back. Reading Noonday Demon actually helped bang that into my head. The cycles won't stop completely, they'll just get fewer and further in between hopefully.
"the truth shall set you free"
> I want to set up a core of supporters to help me handle it next time, but I have a hard time asking for help.well you know we're always here, right? i hope you do. i hope you'll not have a hard time asking for anything.
> I feel quite good right now. Not depressed and have not had a manic episode in about a month and a half. Just tired.
i hear you. do you feel like the change of seasons will affect you much, i.e., no more oppressive summer heat?> Hypomanic phase for me - not sleeping for anywhere from a couple of days to five or so days. I get really wired, often irritable, kind of act like I'm on speed, talk fast, process things too quickly, so I can't concentrate, sometimes psychotic features like seeing ghosts.
wow. i "borrowed" *An Unquiet Mind* from a bookstore yesterday and read over 100 pages of it in a bar before some asshole started hitting on me in a totally WASP-y travelling-salesman-type way. Ugh. Anyway, it moved me to tears right there in the bar. my docs think i've been hypomanic, but your description of it and Jamison's too make me doubt it. i always get my sleep. my concentration's poor because of lack of exercise due to depression...my irritability has always come in waves...psychotic features, that's really crazy/amazing...are the hallucinations frightening?
> Recently, I was cycling more and more, and it kind of seemed to be getting mixed together. My pdoc labeled me last time as rapid cycling.
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> By hysterical, I just mean I went in crying and sort of threatening, saying I am having suicidal thoughts this time, I am ready to just jump in the car and start moving (I always just want to run away from everything), and you better do something fast, no more of this waiting around 4 - 6 weeks. And he did.ahhhh, now i understand. i'm a complete hysteric myself. my pdoc calls me "histrionic."
> I think I would always have to call you Sar.
i think i'll always have to be sar! i've posted some crazy sh*t on this board...i still think of you as Kingfish, but if KK suits you, then good on ya.love,
sar
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