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Posted by Jeanna7 on January 10, 2002, at 15:52:57
> i was just talking about this subject the other day with someone.. i think it's both.. more socially acceptable to be depressed...and i think as a society overall, we're getting soft. myself included. we worry about stuff that our predessesors would have slapped us upside the head for being so whiney when they had more important life and death things to worry about like feeding the family. but....
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> i also think that our society is going straight down the toilet as far as how our families are doing mental-health wise. we have so much more dysfunction, and we put it on jerry springer for all to see, and our kids are having kids and can't fight themselves out of a wet paper bag. we're getting soft and totally forgetting how to raise decent kids.. love them to death but teach them the life lessons they need to survive as adults without too much head-banging against the wall. spoiled kids end up being depressed adults. i've thought about this subject over and over in my mind and i think i can speak from experience. my depression is psychologically based, but i treat it with drugs...(and therapy) go figure...band-aid approach????
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> > One thing that I have a lot of questions about is, has depression always been this frequent? Is it that it is more "out in the open" now or is there an increase in depression on a large scale? Although I know
> > that depression seems fairly common now (being one of the many myself), especially after reading the different messages on this site, has it always been this common? Anybody have any thoughts or answers to share
> > on this? I am close to two weeks being effexor free and I do feel better (as I mentioned in a previous post),especially now that the withdrawal effects are getting a bit better, but I feel more in control of my
> > life now and although I am continuing in my counselling (with a psychologist rather than a psychiatrist), I do feel that I am in the right frame of mind to tackle the "source" rather than the "symptoms".
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> > But I am still curious...is it just the age that we live in now, stress, anxiety, etc.?
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> > Teva
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Here here! Bring from the Midwest originally, I was brought up that we just didn't talk about problems, and we'd just have to 'deal with it' no matter how awful we felt.In 1988 I moved to California, (the anti-depressant capital of the world it seems) and fought the idea of seeing someone. My father died 3 years ago, and I went to a "grief therapist" no drugs, just her letting me babble for 45 minutes at $60 a pop. I got nothing accomplished except an empty wallet.
Recently, after a few more deaths and dyings going on in my friends and family circle, I couldn't stop crying (gotta love that phase!) and realizing it wasn't going to stop on it's own, heard an ad on the radio for a Pharmecutical Research Institute, where they were conducting a study on depression. I signed up and was enrolled in a double-blind study with a new test drug, Paxil and placebo. After the 9 week study was completed, The guessed that I was on Paxil (having gained 3 pounds a week). So, they tried me on Celexa. Can I just say 'white polka-dots'?? Itchy all over and no sex drive.
I was immediately switched to Effexor XR and I LOVE what it does, although, I still have a few of the white polka-dots, but nowhere near as bad.
So, coming back to the original point (OK, so maybe it doesn't help with attention defic... oooh, look! Shiny!) Too many people are drugged for no real reason. It took an act of desperation for me to seek help. In California it seems if you get choked up at a movie you go to see your therapist. I would like to feel better without drugs, and I hope that I will be at that point soon.
I'm actually going for my first REAL (outside the research lab) therapy session on Tuesday, so wish me luck! (OK, reading over that, I DO sound a bit off...)
Anyway, please post any words of advice or comments!
Thank you,
Jeanna
Posted by IsoM on January 10, 2002, at 16:45:59
In reply to Re: effexor scares me » michelle a., posted by Jeanna7 on January 10, 2002, at 15:52:57
So Jeanna, you have ADHD too? Your little comment (below) is so funny but so true. I can flip back & forth between different subjects mid-sentence so often that friends can have trouble figuring out what I'm saying. And I make the exact sound "ooohh!" whenever I see something that excites me & break stride in whatever I'm thinking, saying, or doing.
I've been told that I can act like a squirrel on speed at times so I try to be aware of how others are reacting to me on whether to slow down around them. Just curious about your comment - hope you don't mind me asking.
> > ...coming back to the original point (OK, so maybe it doesn't help with attention defic... oooh, look! Shiny!)
Posted by Teva on January 10, 2002, at 21:24:09
In reply to Re: effexor scares me » Jeanna7, posted by IsoM on January 10, 2002, at 16:45:59
> So Jeanna, you have ADHD too? Your little comment (below) is so funny but so true. I can flip back & forth between different subjects mid-sentence so often that friends can have trouble figuring out what I'm saying. And I make the exact sound "ooohh!" whenever I see something that excites me & break stride in whatever I'm thinking, saying, or doing.
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> I've been told that I can act like a squirrel on speed at times so I try to be aware of how others are reacting to me on whether to slow down around them. Just curious about your comment - hope you don't mind me asking.
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> > > ...coming back to the original point (OK, so maybe it doesn't help with attention defic... oooh, look! Shiny!)"(OK, so maybe it doesn't help with attention defic... oooh, look! Shiny!)" Thank you for the giggle... my friends and co-workers have a hard time keeping up with me too...the worst is when I say half a sentence in my head and finish the rest out loud - they don't know what the heck I am talking about. I'm not sure if drugs or AHDH are responsible for this (especially since I'm not on any drugs anymore (YAY!), but I have been like that for as long as I can remember and it can be good for a few laughs and that can be a GOOD thing!
Posted by Melle on January 11, 2002, at 0:52:59
In reply to Re: effexor scares me » Jeanna7, posted by IsoM on January 10, 2002, at 16:45:59
> So Jeanna, you have ADHD too? Your little comment (below) is so funny but so true. I can flip back & forth between different subjects mid-sentence so often that friends can have trouble figuring out what I'm saying. And I make the exact sound "ooohh!" whenever I see something that excites me & break stride in whatever I'm thinking, saying, or doing.
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> I've been told that I can act like a squirrel on speed at times so I try to be aware of how others are reacting to me on whether to slow down around them. Just curious about your comment - hope you don't mind me asking.
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> > > ...coming back to the original point (OK, so maybe it doesn't help with attention defic... oooh, look! Shiny!)Hi Im new to this news group and was just reading this thread when it struck me as funny and true in the same. I too am a "brain dumper" as I call it and often people ask me if Im "on something"...to which I reply "nah just life". Often finishing a sentence outloud or asking someone a question about a subject we havent been talking about but I have been mulling it over in my head. Its funny to see their faces like "wha" or "huh" they look like the weirdo not me haha.I always wondered if I had ADHD as a child. I consider myself pretty smart but couldnt concentrate on anything long enough in school to do well at anything realy in particular just good all round. I was always known as the class clown and was often in trouble for disturbing others and talking too much ohh and being a wise ass. Any fellow ADHD people relate to this one? It would be interesting for me to compare myself and my traits to others out there. Thanks for listening and I hope I can make some new and interesting friends here.
Melle
Posted by IsoM on January 11, 2002, at 1:59:37
In reply to Re: effexor scares me » IsoM, posted by Melle on January 11, 2002, at 0:52:59
After reading your post, Melle, & Teva's too, it's kind of comforting to think of others like us. Can you imagine a group of women with ADHD getting together for a slumber party? We'd be like a pan of popcorn popping - bouncing off the walls all night. I have a good friend with ADHD & sometimes we can have such a blast together.
My abysmal organisational skills are a real bother to me, but I wouldn't ever want to be non-ADHD for anything. It sure can make one feel very alive, can't it? At least while the stimulation mode is on. Otherwise, without it, my motor's barely idling.
> > So Jeanna, you have ADHD too? Your little comment (below) is so funny but so true. I can flip back & forth between different subjects mid-sentence so often that friends can have trouble figuring out what I'm saying. And I make the exact sound "ooohh!" whenever I see something that excites me & break stride in whatever I'm thinking, saying, or doing.
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> > I've been told that I can act like a squirrel on speed at times so I try to be aware of how others are reacting to me on whether to slow down around them. Just curious about your comment - hope you don't mind me asking.
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> > > > ...coming back to the original point (OK, so maybe it doesn't help with attention defic... oooh, look! Shiny!)
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> Hi Im new to this news group and was just reading this thread when it struck me as funny and true in the same. I too am a "brain dumper" as I call it and often people ask me if Im "on something"...to which I reply "nah just life". Often finishing a sentence outloud or asking someone a question about a subject we havent been talking about but I have been mulling it over in my head. Its funny to see their faces like "wha" or "huh" they look like the weirdo not me haha.I always wondered if I had ADHD as a child. I consider myself pretty smart but couldnt concentrate on anything long enough in school to do well at anything realy in particular just good all round. I was always known as the class clown and was often in trouble for disturbing others and talking too much ohh and being a wise ass. Any fellow ADHD people relate to this one? It would be interesting for me to compare myself and my traits to others out there. Thanks for listening and I hope I can make some new and interesting friends here.
> Melle
Posted by Katey on January 13, 2002, at 14:23:47
In reply to Re: ADHD Slumber Party?, posted by IsoM on January 11, 2002, at 1:59:37
I'm having a lot of fun with this ADHD thing- they only told me about it a month ago, so i missed out on my entire ADHD childhood. i do a lot of asking stuff out of the blue and changing topics a lot. i also mess up words, and have little streaks of hyperness, which are so much fun, i wish i had more.
> After reading your post, Melle, & Teva's too, it's kind of comforting to think of others like us. Can you imagine a group of women with ADHD getting together for a slumber party? We'd be like a pan of popcorn popping - bouncing off the walls all night. I have a good friend with ADHD & sometimes we can have such a blast together.
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> My abysmal organisational skills are a real bother to me, but I wouldn't ever want to be non-ADHD for anything. It sure can make one feel very alive, can't it? At least while the stimulation mode is on. Otherwise, without it, my motor's barely idling.
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> > > So Jeanna, you have ADHD too? Your little comment (below) is so funny but so true. I can flip back & forth between different subjects mid-sentence so often that friends can have trouble figuring out what I'm saying. And I make the exact sound "ooohh!" whenever I see something that excites me & break stride in whatever I'm thinking, saying, or doing.
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> > > I've been told that I can act like a squirrel on speed at times so I try to be aware of how others are reacting to me on whether to slow down around them. Just curious about your comment - hope you don't mind me asking.
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> > > > > ...coming back to the original point (OK, so maybe it doesn't help with attention defic... oooh, look! Shiny!)
> >
> > Hi Im new to this news group and was just reading this thread when it struck me as funny and true in the same. I too am a "brain dumper" as I call it and often people ask me if Im "on something"...to which I reply "nah just life". Often finishing a sentence outloud or asking someone a question about a subject we havent been talking about but I have been mulling it over in my head. Its funny to see their faces like "wha" or "huh" they look like the weirdo not me haha.I always wondered if I had ADHD as a child. I consider myself pretty smart but couldnt concentrate on anything long enough in school to do well at anything realy in particular just good all round. I was always known as the class clown and was often in trouble for disturbing others and talking too much ohh and being a wise ass. Any fellow ADHD people relate to this one? It would be interesting for me to compare myself and my traits to others out there. Thanks for listening and I hope I can make some new and interesting friends here.
> > Melle
Posted by Melle on January 13, 2002, at 19:42:23
In reply to Re: ADHD Slumber Party?, posted by Katey on January 13, 2002, at 14:23:47
>I think I maby growing outta this ADHD a bit though Im not as hyper as I used to be hence gaining weight but I wonder if thats caused by the fact that I have a 15month old and a 3 1/2 year old to wear me out.I can still party anyone under the table though still going till 6am and not having any drugs or alcohol (never did it never will never had too) I think Im loony enough straight. I have realy had to work hard at remembering things and organising myself...you have to with two little ones other wise you'd be stuck in all day.
I find cold and flu pills make me silly though its the psuedoeffedrine (I thinks thats how you spell it)So if I take one I have to pre-warn my hubby that Imight not be myself for the day. OHH its fun to be weird though you get away with wearing weird clothes and doing silly things and people just seem to accept you more. I am a self confessed Geek and I love it!Im a trend setter not a follower. Ohh hear I go babbling again.....gotta go shopping now....ciya soon.Melle
I'm having a lot of fun with this ADHD thing- they only told me about it a month ago, so i missed out on my entire ADHD childhood. i do a lot of asking stuff out of the blue and changing topics a lot. i also mess up words, and have little streaks of hyperness, which are so much fun, i wish i had more.
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> > After reading your post, Melle, & Teva's too, it's kind of comforting to think of others like us. Can you imagine a group of women with ADHD getting together for a slumber party? We'd be like a pan of popcorn popping - bouncing off the walls all night. I have a good friend with ADHD & sometimes we can have such a blast together.
> >
> > My abysmal organisational skills are a real bother to me, but I wouldn't ever want to be non-ADHD for anything. It sure can make one feel very alive, can't it? At least while the stimulation mode is on. Otherwise, without it, my motor's barely idling.
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> > > > So Jeanna, you have ADHD too? Your little comment (below) is so funny but so true. I can flip back & forth between different subjects mid-sentence so often that friends can have trouble figuring out what I'm saying. And I make the exact sound "ooohh!" whenever I see something that excites me & break stride in whatever I'm thinking, saying, or doing.
> > > >
> > > > I've been told that I can act like a squirrel on speed at times so I try to be aware of how others are reacting to me on whether to slow down around them. Just curious about your comment - hope you don't mind me asking.
> > > >
> > > > > > ...coming back to the original point (OK, so maybe it doesn't help with attention defic... oooh, look! Shiny!)
> > >
> > > Hi Im new to this news group and was just reading this thread when it struck me as funny and true in the same. I too am a "brain dumper" as I call it and often people ask me if Im "on something"...to which I reply "nah just life". Often finishing a sentence outloud or asking someone a question about a subject we havent been talking about but I have been mulling it over in my head. Its funny to see their faces like "wha" or "huh" they look like the weirdo not me haha.I always wondered if I had ADHD as a child. I consider myself pretty smart but couldnt concentrate on anything long enough in school to do well at anything realy in particular just good all round. I was always known as the class clown and was often in trouble for disturbing others and talking too much ohh and being a wise ass. Any fellow ADHD people relate to this one? It would be interesting for me to compare myself and my traits to others out there. Thanks for listening and I hope I can make some new and interesting friends here.
> > > Melle
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