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Posted by christophrejmc on February 19, 2002, at 20:40:45
In reply to Re: Age Survey -- How Old Are YOU? , posted by Anna Laura on February 19, 2002, at 10:58:39
Posted by IsoM on February 19, 2002, at 20:48:24
In reply to Re: Dr. Bob -- How Old Are YOU? (nm), posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 19:16:27
Posted by Dinah on February 19, 2002, at 21:00:13
In reply to Let's Guess Dr. Bob's Age! I say 38 (nm), posted by IsoM on February 19, 2002, at 20:48:24
Oh good! We missed a pool for Judy's baby. Maybe we could have one for Dr. Bob's age. What do we get if we win? A get out of "blocked for a week" free card?
Posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 21:02:59
In reply to Re: Let's Guess Dr. Bob's Age! I guess 42, posted by Dinah on February 19, 2002, at 21:00:13
Posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 21:17:04
In reply to Re: Let's Guess Dr. Bob's Age! I guess 47 (nm), posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 21:02:59
Posted by KB on February 19, 2002, at 21:33:18
In reply to Age Survey -- How Old Are YOU? I'm 52., posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 10:20:23
Posted by IsoM on February 19, 2002, at 22:18:05
In reply to Re: Let's Guess Dr. Bob's Age! I guess 42, posted by Dinah on February 19, 2002, at 21:00:13
That is a neat idea, Dinah!
"What do we get if we win? A get out of "blocked for a week" free card?"Maybe if we never get blocked (perpetually polite posters), we can use it for someone else. Hope Dr. Bob goes for this idea!
Posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 22:25:26
In reply to Prize For Correct Guess » Dinah, posted by IsoM on February 19, 2002, at 22:18:05
If I win, I'll donate mine to Cam W., who is probably the #1 most-respected person on Psycho-Babble AND the only senior participant to be blocked by his friend and colleague (our host) more than 3 times. :-)) Cam is not only one of the most generous and caring men with whom I've ever interacted, but he also has a pretty good temper as well. Just don't suggest everyone stop taking their meds and eat super-blue-green-pond-scum instead when Cam's around! :-)
Mark H.
Posted by trouble on February 20, 2002, at 4:06:23
In reply to Age Survey -- How Old Are YOU? I'm 52., posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 10:20:23
Posted by mair on February 20, 2002, at 7:52:05
In reply to 44 next week (nm), posted by trouble on February 20, 2002, at 4:06:23
Posted by Dinah on February 20, 2002, at 8:10:57
In reply to Dinah - Your Age?? :-)) (nm), posted by mair on February 20, 2002, at 7:52:05
Posted by pedr on February 20, 2002, at 8:26:58
In reply to I'm 40 (nm), posted by Dinah on February 20, 2002, at 8:10:57
Posted by kazoo on February 20, 2002, at 16:45:06
In reply to Age Survey -- How Old Are YOU? I'm 52., posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 10:20:23
> We haven't done an age survey in awhile, so if you don't mind saying, please tell all of us your age. It's not a big deal, just interesting to see how many years we bring to this forum.
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> I'm 52.
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> Mark H.In dog years, I'm already dead, BOW WOW WOW!
kazoo
Posted by noa on February 20, 2002, at 17:15:45
In reply to Re: Age Survey -- How Old Are YOU? 48 (nm), posted by kid47 on February 19, 2002, at 11:31:00
Just had to giggle a bit, cuz of your name (kid47)--guess you coined the name last year, eh?
Posted by noa on February 20, 2002, at 17:19:24
In reply to Re: Thoughts on Age, posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 13:15:18
LOL. Remember the old ads on tv for dishwashing soap where they'd make us guess who the mother is and who the daughter is based on their hands but of course you couldn't tell because of how wonderful the detergent was?? I laugh about those old ads all the time when I look at my hands, cuz my hands look OLD. I have that same exact feeling of looking down at my hands and thinking omigod those are old hands!
Some people think I am about 5-10 years younger than I am, but I think if they checked out the hands they'd figure out the truth.
Posted by noa on February 20, 2002, at 17:30:58
In reply to Age Survey -- How Old Are YOU? I'm 52., posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 10:20:23
As for how I feel? This is so hard for me to answer. For a long time, I was aware of feeling about 19 y.o. but recently I think I noticed that I do feel older, mabye in a good way, maybe not. I dunno. The numbers don't connect for me to feeling a certain age, maybe because I've "lost" so many years to depression.
I certainly haven't achieved some of the typical milestones of my age group, and sometimes when I'm with age-mates I feel like I stand out as the "young" one (no spouse, no kids, no house, no money, etc. etc.).
People are often surprised when they learn my age, thinking of me as being about a decade younger. I think partly that is due to only a few gray hairs (although some people have assumed my hair is dyed), and not much in the way of facial wrinkles, but certainly I don't have a "youthful" body in the sense of being in shape. Physically, I am out of shape like a much older person.
I think people think I'm younger because I'm unattached and have no kids and live in a crappy little apartment. But I'll take the mistakes anyway.
As for being 20 or 24 or therabouts, I can tell you that those were damn hard years and that I think things do get somewhat better as you get into your 30's if only because you get some control over some of the basics in life. The 20-somethings here might like to take a look at the book, "Quarterlife Crisis".
Posted by IsoM on February 20, 2002, at 17:54:11
In reply to Re: Thoughts on Age » Mark H., posted by noa on February 20, 2002, at 17:19:24
That's funny that you mention your hands, Noa. I'm 52 but I never thought about how old I looked till I started work at another place & people assumed I was in my late 30's. My hands though, are another matter. Even as a kid, my hands looked much older. Now that they're in dirt so much of the day & gardening when not at work, they look about 60+. I hate lotions & have soft nails so I couldn't fix them even if I wanted to. Others tell me my hands look sore & dry but they're not really.
I think sometimes the expression on our face has a lot to do with how old we look. When I was just getting over a long bout of viral pneumonia, with my marriage breaking up, & one son suicidal & had to be hospitalised, I swear I looked *so* old. My mouth was drawn down & I had big, dark shadows under my eyes. I thought it meant I'd now look old forever. A big smile & laughter (when we can) does so much to make someone look young & attractive. I'm happy to report I smile & laugh often now.
Posted by IsoM on February 20, 2002, at 17:55:21
In reply to Re: Age Survey -- How Old Are YOU? I'm 52., posted by kazoo on February 20, 2002, at 16:45:06
Kazoo, that is such a naughty but sweet story. Cracked me up. :-)
Posted by sid on February 20, 2002, at 19:27:17
In reply to Prize For Correct Guess » Dinah, posted by IsoM on February 19, 2002, at 22:18:05
Posted by sid on February 20, 2002, at 19:34:02
In reply to Re: Age Survey -- How Old Are YOU? 41, posted by noa on February 20, 2002, at 17:30:58
>The numbers don't connect for me to feeling a certain age, maybe because I've "lost" so many years to depression.
I feel exactly the same way! I should be about 10 years younger.
> I certainly haven't achieved some of the typical milestones of my age group, and sometimes when I'm with age-mates I feel like I stand out as the "young" one (no spouse, no kids, no house, no money, etc. etc.).Same for me. I've studied and gotten a PhD, but that's it. I had zero ebergy for anything else!
> People are often surprised when they learn my age, thinking of me as being about a decade younger. I think partly that is due to only a few gray hairs (although some people have assumed my hair is dyed), and not much in the way of facial wrinkles, but certainly I don't have a "youthful" body in the sense of being in shape. Physically, I am out of shape like a much older person.
Same here - out of shape, but people usualy are surprised that I'm over 30 (I'm 34); they usually think about 27.
> I think people think I'm younger because I'm unattached and have no kids and live in a crappy little apartment. But I'll take the mistakes anyway.Well, tell yourself it's because you look younger - you'll feel better!
> As for being 20 or 24 or therabouts, I can tell you that those were damn hard years and that I think things do get somewhat better as you get into your 30's if only because you get some control over some of the basics in life. The 20-somethings here might like to take a look at the book, "Quarterlife Crisis".Indeed, I felt robbed of my 20's due to depression, but one thing is for sure, my 30's are better and I wouldn't want to go back.
Posted by sid on February 20, 2002, at 19:35:53
In reply to Hands and Age » noa, posted by IsoM on February 20, 2002, at 17:54:11
> I'm happy to report I smile & laugh often now.
Good for you, IsoM! Doesn't it feel good?
Posted by Reneeb on February 21, 2002, at 11:26:40
In reply to Re: Age Survey -- How Old Are YOU? , posted by Anna Laura on February 19, 2002, at 10:58:39
Posted by ST on February 21, 2002, at 18:40:50
In reply to Age Survey -- How Old Are YOU? I'm 52., posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 10:20:23
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Posted by Zo on February 22, 2002, at 1:33:45
In reply to Age Survey -- How Old Are YOU? I'm 52., posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 10:20:23
Posted by medlib on February 22, 2002, at 1:33:48
In reply to Thank you!, posted by Mark H. on February 19, 2002, at 20:31:06
Hi Mark--
It's very good to see you emerge once again from your seasonal hibernation. Yeah, I'm still around--often, if no longer always, or for as long. But, since I read at least 100x faster than I write, I do little of the latter. Thanks for asking about me.
I was surprised when I saw your Q, and I wondered why you asked. Though undoubtedly the easiest to determine, chronological age seems to me the least useful of the "ages" humans calculate. Physiological, mental, emotional, social and experiential ages are all better descriptors which have greater utility. Unlike the others, chronological age has no individual predictability, cannot be changed or remedied, and is used primarily for governmental identification and social stereotyping. So, I simply do not provide personal statistics unless required by law or necessary to obtain something I want more than privacy.
Sorry for the self-indulgent explanation. Maybe it's your philosophical bent, or the fact that this forum's members are no strangers to the effects of stereotyping. In any case, it's not something I feel really strongly about, just a matter of internal consistency, I guess.
Depression, for me, has strong Rip Van Winkle characteristics. If I ever felt younger than my chronological age, it would be because I've lived only a fraction of the time I've been alive; my experiential age is barely past the teens.
Now, if I just had Noa-like economy of expression, it might have occurred to me sooner simply to fall back on my favorite social snottism, "I'll forgive you for asking if you'll forgive me for not answering."
More midnight meanderings from medlib
(I *do* try to refrain from alliterating, I just don't succeed very often.)
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