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Posted by Dr. Bob on May 2, 2002, at 17:05:34
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> Sweet Katie,
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> This should probably be re-directed to PSB....
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> I truly believe that if people were totally honest, everyone would have to admit that they have contemplated the idea of suicide.
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> I have very strong spiritual beliefs, and I believe that our time on earth is transient and we are here to learn and then move along. Perhaps we come back here to keep learning, or maybe we go somewhere else.
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> I believe that I have the right to choose to take my own life if, for any reason, it becomes completely unbearable. What I have a real problem with is young people committing suicide (they need more time to really understand life) or someone who commits suicide w/ malice. For instance, a rebellious person who wants to punish his/her loved ones. I don't believe people should kill themselves out of weakness, either. There are plenty of people willing to lend their strength (like posters on this board) if one feels like they can't take anymore.
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> Suicide is ultimately a very selfish act. Sometimes circumstances justify being selfish, but it should not be at the expense of others, ie family and friends who would be tormented forever because of it.
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> So no matter how easy it would be to check out, I could never lay that burden on my children who will need me for a long time. And, I want to see my grandchildren and great-grandchildren. So, no matter how tempting the idea of "checking out" sometimes is, I have too much love to give. If anyone needs some, here you go... xxxooo And theres plenty more where that came from.
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> Love and luck,
> Carly
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 3, 2002, at 9:49:34
In reply to Re: is this suicidal? « cmcdougall, posted by Dr. Bob on May 2, 2002, at 17:05:34
[Posted by mashogr8 on May 2, 2002, at 18:24:18]
> There are probably three times when I find myself thinking about being dead. Usually when I feel really bad and I've had no relief from depression through medication. It's a way of telling my psydoc how much my life is getting our of control.
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> The second time is when I think about whether my husband and children would actually have been better off if I had succeeded several years ago. After all, what's so special, or wholesome, about living with a depressed person and never knowing wheth they will smile today or not. How can that really be better whan having life go on and family move on with a new person as mom or wife. My psychologist says that is depression talking and they , the family wouldn't really be any better off and probably would be worse. I still find that hard to believe.
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> The third time is usually when I'm just plain discouraged and want to rationalize the act of sucideif I ever needed to resort to that activity. It also allows me to respond to other people when they say how could a people kill themselves. I truly feel I can relate to their pain. The suicides I have trouble with are with the young as someone earliear had posted. One of my colleague's son was only 14 when he hung himself last month. That's just too young to know that life isnt going to be any different tomorrow than it is today.
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> I think that if you discussed your thoughts with your therapist, you would learn a lot more about yourself. The therapist has, at the least, heard the idea before, even if "it"(he/she)hasn't heard your take on the subject.
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> take care
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 5, 2002, at 15:39:53
In reply to Re: is this suicidal? « cmcdougall, posted by Dr. Bob on May 2, 2002, at 17:05:34
[Posted by LiLAngelJenna on May 3, 2002, at 21:38:00
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> Suicide as appealing as it sounds wont do you any good once your gone if your doing it to punish someone for making you feel that way.. I think most everyone who considers it is far to scared of death and actually going thru with it.. I think thats the one thing that scares me more than living..And It IS a big deal tho to other people who care about you and if you were able to think in rational terms you would see that too..I hope you feel better and realize how precious your life is if not to you at the time being, but your family & friends.
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 5, 2002, at 15:40:58
In reply to Re: Great Answer Carly « LiLAngelJenna, posted by Dr. Bob on May 5, 2002, at 15:39:53
[Posted by katieb on May 3, 2002, at 22:26:44]
> thank you so much guys, all these answers are very reassuring. i really have no tendencies to kill myself. it's just when i'm having an awful couple of days and i'm tired that i start to question it all. i'm working on feeling better though :)
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