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Posted by jodie on February 6, 2003, at 13:02:14
Yes, posting is really slow!!! Are we babbling too much? :-)
Posted by Tabitha on February 6, 2003, at 13:45:45
In reply to Server problems----- Dr. Bob, posted by jodie on February 6, 2003, at 13:02:14
Posted by tina on February 6, 2003, at 14:11:12
In reply to Server problems----- Dr. Bob, posted by jodie on February 6, 2003, at 13:02:14
still, this post should be on administration board so Dr Bob can see it. He may not look here for trouble with the site.
Posted by jodie on February 6, 2003, at 17:54:40
In reply to no problems here. been posting alot today, posted by tina on February 6, 2003, at 14:11:12
I will not put posts like that here anymore, sorry
I was reading the top of the page where Dr. Bob said posts may be slow, they were for me for about an hour, and a couple of my posts, posted twice. I noticed this happened to a couple of other people.
jodie
Posted by jodie on February 6, 2003, at 17:58:47
In reply to no problems here. been posting alot today, posted by tina on February 6, 2003, at 14:11:12
The main reason I posted it here is because I believe Dr. Bob is already aware, by reading above notice, and I was making a joke about the babbling, being social.
Posted by jodie on February 7, 2003, at 2:43:19
In reply to Re: My reason for posting here!!!, posted by jodie on February 6, 2003, at 17:58:47
> The main reason I posted it here is because I believe Dr. Bob is already aware, by reading above notice, and I was making a joke about the babbling, being social.
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Ooops!!! That post sounded kind of rude, did not mean for it to sound that way..sorry. Just wanted to clarify my cranky little self..lolJodie
Posted by lostsailor on February 11, 2003, at 10:31:58
In reply to Re: My reason for posting here!!!---Tina, posted by jodie on February 7, 2003, at 2:43:19
> > The main reason I posted it here is because I believe Dr. Bob is already aware, by reading above notice, and I was making a joke about the babbling, being social.
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> Ooops!!! That post sounded kind of rude, did not mean for it to sound that way..sorry. Just wanted to clarify my cranky little self..lol
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> JodieJodie, no need to apologize, though I feel funny at time and do as well..lol. Sleping yet??? ~Tony
Posted by jodie on February 11, 2003, at 22:22:18
In reply to Re: My reason for posting here!!!jodie, posted by lostsailor on February 11, 2003, at 10:31:58
Hi Tony,
I forgot about that post "my reason for posting here." There are so many posts here that I type, and barely remember them, from the insomnia, I believe!!!
I was just put on Adderall XR about 4 days ago, so that is not helping my already existing insomnia!! I fall asleep around 5 am, and wake up around 8, and from then on, I just lay there for a few hours trying to go back to sleep. If I manage to get back to sleep its for maybe 30 min. My body is feeling so exhausted.
I go see my pdoc on the 17th, so I will see about the insomnia thing. I think I'm going to beg for a sleep aid!!
Anyway, how are you??
Thanks
Jodie
Posted by lostsailor on February 12, 2003, at 13:51:12
In reply to Re: Sleeping yet?? No!!!!!! » lostsailor, posted by jodie on February 11, 2003, at 22:22:18
you think you may be bi-polar (bear) and can't sleed. Why did a doc put you on a stimulent. did he misread the file for the little boy with add he was seeing next...lol i hope you can rest soon. poor fiance--my ex was good while i was sleepless and manic. If he's being "cool", tell him thanx. they need a lil help from loons occasionally...lol ~tony
Posted by jodie on February 14, 2003, at 0:39:06
In reply to Re: Sleeping yet?? No!!!!!!~~jodie, posted by lostsailor on February 12, 2003, at 13:51:12
Yes I think I am bipolar. I had been diagnosed with it in the past. A new pdoc thinks I have ADD. I think she is right also. I think I have both. I have lots of symptoms of both disorders. My pdoc is giving the Adderall XR a try. I have been especially depressed lately, and she said it would help with that. My fiancee is supposed to help me watch for mania.
I tried Ambien, it did nothing for me. I wonder if its because I have been on Klonopin almost everyday for so long? Still having the sleep...or sleepless...issue...lol! It hasn't seemed to worsen since I started the stimulant though. The stimulant seems to be out of my system by 5 or 6 pm. I think I may have to get a sleep study or something!!! Yuck!!
My fiance has been very understanding and "cool" about the insomnia, I think its because I have been laying on the couch!!!
Your posts always make me smile, you should feel special, I don't smile much anymore :-)
Jodie
Posted by Gracie2 on February 14, 2003, at 21:32:01
In reply to Re: Sleeping yet?? No!!!!!! » lostsailor, posted by jodie on February 14, 2003, at 0:39:06
Jodie-
I haven't been around for awhile but sometimes I come back on and lurk just to see how everyone is doing. My heart goes out to you because I know exactly what you're going through. Chronic insomnia is hell, just sheer hell, and I've had trouble with it since my early teenage years. I always managed to get through it somehow until a couple of years ago. I was having a lot of personal problems and my insomnia revved up to an unbearable degree. I'd wander the house like a ghost until 3:00 or 4:00 am, fall asleep from exhaustion for a couple of hours, and then have to drag myself off the couch (I couldn't stay in the bedroom because I kept my husband awake all night, tossing and turning and switching the reading lamp on and off, so I figured why put him through the same torture) and go to work. I would drink pots of coffee in order to be able to function during the day and, of course, this only made the insomnia worse. At times I would become so exhausted, I'd just weep from the frustration of being unable to sleep. Eventually I started taking very large doses of over-the-counter medications, trying to knock myself out. Because of my history of drug abuse, and particularly after a serious suicide attempt, my doctor would not give me benzos or prescription sleeping pills, and I couldn't blame the guy. I swallowed handfuls of Benadryl in sheer desperation, not even caring anymore about the damage that I knew must be going on in my body, anything for a good night's sleep. Ironically, the Benadryl kept me awake. I found out later that a paradoxical reaction to some medications is typical in people with bipolar disorder. So is chronic insomnia.Naturally this could not go on forever, though I held out for a very long time before I crashed and burned. Eventually it became obvious that I was in serious need of psychiatric help and heavy-duty medication. I am now stabalized on the anti-psychotic Seroquel at a pretty hefty dose of 400 mg a night. I've had some adverse reactions from some posters on PB when I attempted to praise this drug for saving my life, which it certainly did. And it's probably true that this dosage of Seroquel would knock out an elephant, it's certainly a powerful drug that should be avoided by those who don't need it, and it did take me some time to adjust to this dosage.
However, this is what it did for me: as long as I take Seroquel at bedtime, I go to sleep within a reasonable period of time and I sleep all night, every night. I wake up in the morning like normal people without feeling groggy, and I do not have to increase the amount of Seroquel that I take for it to remain effective. This drug is literally keeping me alive, because I could not continue to function as I once did, day after day and night after night with little or no sleep.
I would have eventually killed myself with over-the-counter medications in my attempts to get a little sleep.Although different drugs work for different people, this is certainly an option for you if you do have manic depression.
God Bless-
Gracie
Posted by jodie on February 15, 2003, at 0:13:24
In reply to To Sleepless Jodie, posted by Gracie2 on February 14, 2003, at 21:32:01
Thank you so much for your info. I can definitely relate to you & the insomnia. My normal bed time now is 3 or 4, sometimes even 5 am. I have tried all kinds of things over the counter, Benadryl (Nytol, but its the same thing), different herbal teas, meds, things like that. I have tried trazadone, dalmane, restoril, ambien, valium, for my insomnia. If they work, its for like one or two days. Then they never work again. Even, if its been months since I've tried one. My medicine cabinet is packed with this stuff. So of course, every great once in a while I'll give one a try again. Like the Ambien, when I first took it, wow, it knocked me out, I woke up feeling refreshed. I was supposed to take that for 10 days. By the 2nd night, nothing, it was like taking an aspirin or something. After a few months, I tried Ambien again, nothing. It's like that with everything. But I do take Klonopin 1mg twice a day. I've been doing that for almost 2 years now. Maybe that has caused me to build up a tolerance to all of that stuff.
My body is starting to get so tired. I'm getting really dark circles under my eyes. They are always blood shot. Last week, my brother asked me what illegal drug I have been taking. I am looking that bad!!! Of course I had just started the Adderall too, so I was kind of feeling/acting like I was on cocaine or something. I have enough problems right now, don't need anymore. So I haven't even considered illegal drugs. Don't get me wrong, I've experimented in the past. I tend to have an addictive personality to anything I like, so I stay away from anything illegal!!
I go to see my pdoc on Monday, I'm going to tell her how serious the insomnia has become. I will mention Seroquel, or anything similar. Since I'm taking Adderall XR now for my ADD, I wonder if I can take the two together? I do believe I am bipolar and have ADD both.
It's great that you have something that works for you!!! Sounds like you were going through a tough time there for a while.
Once again, thank you. Your reply means a lot to me!!!
Jodie
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