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Posted by Justherself54 on August 2, 2009, at 23:58:11
In reply to Re: Kissing lessons, posted by P hil on August 2, 2009, at 23:32:10
It's usually after the first kiss where the fellow has been trying to play the bongos on my tonsils, that my teeth close tight..then he goes to the friendship list...on the other hand I've had relationships with men who weren't great kissers but had other qualities..a bad kisser can be taught to improve..lead by example! Gad, I miss kissing!
Posted by P h i l on August 3, 2009, at 0:54:37
In reply to Re: Kissing lessons, posted by Justherself54 on August 2, 2009, at 23:58:11
Had to do a search. Tons of tips to correct the situation including say bye bye.
Din't intend to be rude, Dinah.So that new guy or girl in your life is just perfect. Kind, caring, fun, exciting--he or she has it all. Except... Oh, what a terrible kisser! From the guy who draws blood with every kiss to the girl that makes that weird clicking sound when you lock lips, bad kissers are everywhere. For many of us, kissing is a very important part of a relationship and, unfortunately, the inability to deliver a passionate kiss (or worse, the ability to deliver a disgusting kiss) can be a deal breaker, no matter how great the person is otherwise. Luckily, most bad kissers can become good kissers if you have a little patience, tact, and courage.
Posted by Dinah on August 3, 2009, at 1:06:55
In reply to Re: Kissing lessons lol » Justherself54, posted by P h i l on August 3, 2009, at 0:54:37
I was also speaking from experience, Phil.
I never liked kissing anyone until my husband. Never mind pursed lips and clenched teeth, I ducked any attempts at what to me seems to be the ultimate in intimacy. With my husband, I was different. I thought he must be the best kisser anywhere. More likely he was the best guy for me, and so I was more responsive.
Pursed lips and clenched teeth can be a sign that a woman doesn't wish the intimacy that comes with open lipped, tongue thrusting kissing. Thus, she may be signaling that she's not interested in intimacy with that particular guy. Or maybe that he had garlic and onions for dinner. Maybe that's not always the case, but I'll bet it's often the case.
I'm still likely a lousy kisser. Fortunately my husband apparently has different priorities. If this is a priority for you, then you should look for it in a woman. Just like I was only interested in smart and funny and chock-full of integrity, and didn't relax my standards.
And I still think kissing is more intimate than sex. It's not something I'd want to do with very many people.
Posted by P h i l on August 3, 2009, at 1:58:27
In reply to Re: Kissing lessons lol, posted by Dinah on August 3, 2009, at 1:06:55
Like I said I had a gal that wanted badly to marry me. . Kissing was one issue but there were others.
A lot of people date two people and marry the third.
I've probably dated 200 women but never wanted to get marry.Tired of it all. I knew that before I dated one.
To each his own and btw I've been off the market for a long time so I'm not looking for anything other than to left alone.
Anyway, just trying to make a point in first post then as is usual on this forum it becomes more than it needs to be.
I'll go spend more time on my other forum where nobody gets blocked or any of the other bs that goes on here.
We pull together there. We pull apart here with no compromise.
Always been that way. Always will.
Peace out from Austin
Posted by P h i l on August 3, 2009, at 2:04:37
In reply to Re: Kissing lessons lol, posted by P h i l on August 3, 2009, at 1:58:27
I may come back out of habit someday but I really hope I don't.
How many hundreds of good people have left here due to policies and idiotic posters?
Go thru the archives and count.
Posted by Ph il on August 3, 2009, at 6:07:19
In reply to Re: Had enough babble, posted by P h i l on August 3, 2009, at 2:04:37
I'm still manic and sleeping 3 hours a night even though my doc added 15mg zyprexa.
I took all my meds last night and still could't sleep. Got up took more klonopin and 2 benadryl, no sleep.
I'm not in good shape and I'm sorry I got a little wound up.
Phil
Posted by Dinah on August 3, 2009, at 7:27:05
In reply to Apologies Dinah, posted by Ph il on August 3, 2009, at 6:07:19
Well, for what it's worth, I wasn't speaking for that woman or any other in particular. Just offering an alternative explanation for some women. I didn't mean to imply that that woman didn't want that kind of intimacy with you.
I hope you get some sleep soon. Maybe it would be a good idea to call your pdoc again today? Three hours is better than nothing, but not nearly enough - particularly given the accumulated lack of sleep. Maybe he can suggest something.
Posted by Phil on August 3, 2009, at 7:34:41
In reply to Re: Apologies Dinah » Ph il, posted by Dinah on August 3, 2009, at 7:27:05
left a message for him to call.
thanks
Posted by manic666 on August 3, 2009, at 13:13:42
In reply to Re: Apologies Dinah » Dinah, posted by Phil on August 3, 2009, at 7:34:41
Posted by Angela2 on August 3, 2009, at 14:11:37
In reply to Apologies Dinah, posted by Ph il on August 3, 2009, at 6:07:19
You are manic therefore you post degrading things about women on a site that is supposed to make people feel safe? This is coming from a hurt place ok..
Posted by Phil on August 3, 2009, at 15:04:22
In reply to I'm not sure I understand..., posted by Angela2 on August 3, 2009, at 14:11:37
Degrading? This topic goes for men too. We're talking about kissing and that's a trigger?
I posted about kissing and it just blows all to hell here,
I have never degraded women in my life. Ever.
This is THE time for me to split. If you talk about fingernail clippers here, someone will get triggered. It's unreal'
I really think this board makes some people sicker than before they got here.
It was fun while it lasted but the sh#t slinging still going on here I can't take anymore.
It was a good ten years. Maybe you can take some time and see how many men and women I've helped here.
Don't take it from me, ask somebody.
Bobby couldn't take it and I can't either.
People who are manic can have poor judgement
I won't be back. This place makes me sick.
Posted by Angela2 on August 3, 2009, at 15:17:08
In reply to Re: I'm not sure I understand... » Angela2, posted by Phil on August 3, 2009, at 15:04:22
Phil, I'm sorry. I don't know what to say right now as I'm hurting and have my own issues. I hope that you don't leave and I hope that I do leave. It seems this place is helping you. And not helping me. seriously. I didn't see your post about just wanting to be left alone.
Posted by SLS on August 3, 2009, at 16:57:38
In reply to Re: I'm not sure I understand..., posted by Angela2 on August 3, 2009, at 15:17:08
> Phil, I'm sorry. I don't know what to say right now as I'm hurting and have my own issues. I hope that you don't leave and I hope that I do leave. It seems this place is helping you. And not helping me. seriously. I didn't see your post about just wanting to be left alone.
Well, I don't want to be left alone at the moment, and I have no emotional need to "leave" Psycho-Babble. I am not emotionally hurting. However, I still had an emotional reaction to the subject line that upset you. My reaction was very similar to yours.
I am not condemning the poster. However, I do think it serves a good purpose to let him know how some people feel. Personally, the first word to come to me upon seeing the post was "vulgar". I just think that this is the wrong place for what might be a very funny bit in another venue.
Things are cool, Manic666. No hard feelings on my part. I just thought it was appropriate to express my personal reaction to what you wrote.
- Scott
Posted by TexasChic on August 3, 2009, at 19:23:48
In reply to Re: Kissing lessons, posted by P hil on August 2, 2009, at 23:32:10
Hmmm, interesting. I didn't know so many people didn't like to french kiss but were okay with sex. Hell, I've made out with guys I wasn't even attracted to out of sheer boredom. One time me and this guy were waiting on our friends who were hooking up and left us waiting outside. So after a while I was like, "So, you want to make out?" And he was like, "Okay". So we made out for a while and nothing else ever came of it. I've made out with literally more guys than I can remember, but have only slept with two!
I haven't kissed anyone in a good while since I've become such an introvert. And of course, I used to be much skinnier and hotter back then.
-T
Posted by Sigismund on August 3, 2009, at 20:01:03
In reply to Re: Kissing lessons, posted by TexasChic on August 3, 2009, at 19:23:48
So that is what 'making out' means?
I didn't know that, not exactly.
I wonder who thought that up?
It's a little odd, when you think about it, to speak about to make out.
Posted by Kath on August 3, 2009, at 21:29:01
In reply to Re: Kissing lessons, posted by Sigismund on August 3, 2009, at 20:01:03
The teeth are open, but I'd prefer that nothing other than air goes past them!!! Up to them, yes, but past them, no!
Maybe I'm weird. Wonder if anyone else is like me? I suspect it's because of my past.
Kath
PS - Please don't anybody be mean to me about this, because I'm being very vulnerable in posting this, but actually do wonder if anyone else feels like this.
Posted by Dinah on August 3, 2009, at 21:41:31
In reply to Hmmmmmm - I guess I'd fail bigtime at the lessons, posted by Kath on August 3, 2009, at 21:29:01
((( Kath )))
I was feeling kind of sensitive about it myself today. Even though it was far better with my husband than it was with anyone else, it's still not anywhere on my list of favorite activities.
My therapist said it's not particularly unusual. The only thing that surprises him about me is that there was no particular history to account for what has been an issue for me since I was old enough for it to be an issue.
Fortunately my husband finds my other fine and useful qualities are more than sufficient to compensate. :)
(I checked with him to make sure.)
To tell you the truth, I kind of wonder who on earth thought up that activity? The Wikipedia article on kissing might be interesting to you.
Posted by TexasChic on August 3, 2009, at 22:59:22
In reply to Re: Kissing lessons, posted by Sigismund on August 3, 2009, at 20:01:03
> So that is what 'making out' means?
>
> I didn't know that, not exactly.
>
> I wonder who thought that up?
>
> It's a little odd, when you think about it, to speak about to make out.No odder than 'snoggin', which is what they call it in Harry Potter, and I'm guessing in England. What do they call it in Australia? We all have weird sayings. I like to hear them though.
-T
Posted by TexasChic on August 3, 2009, at 23:05:47
In reply to Hmmmmmm - I guess I'd fail bigtime at the lessons, posted by Kath on August 3, 2009, at 21:29:01
> The teeth are open, but I'd prefer that nothing other than air goes past them!!! Up to them, yes, but past them, no!
>
> Maybe I'm weird. Wonder if anyone else is like me? I suspect it's because of my past.
>
> Kath
>
> PS - Please don't anybody be mean to me about this, because I'm being very vulnerable in posting this, but actually do wonder if anyone else feels like this.Sounds to me like maybe you're pretty normal actually! I was a little afraid of being made fun of too. I deleted half my post because of that!
-T
Posted by Sigismund on August 3, 2009, at 23:13:49
In reply to Re: Kissing lessons, posted by TexasChic on August 3, 2009, at 22:59:22
I'm not sure if it's Australian, but there used to be pash as in 'They're having a pash out the back'.
You say 'in back', don't you?
Posted by Phil on August 4, 2009, at 6:55:43
In reply to Re: Kissing lessons, posted by Sigismund on August 3, 2009, at 23:13:49
If I would have known this post would upset so many people I would not have posted it.
I really got caught off guard. But please remember, I haven't slept in forever and my judgement isn't that great.
However, I'm not 'the poster' and my post was not vulgar. My opinion.
But, I've learned.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oAF3UdSJ1k
Posted by Phil on August 4, 2009, at 7:17:57
In reply to All alone is all we are, posted by Phil on August 4, 2009, at 6:55:43
My life has been nuts lately.
I posted that I had a near miss suicide attempt,
my bro has terminal cancer, out of work for 2 months, no pay, 4 days in psych hospital. I got great support from y'all.But I screw up once and I have to run for a bunker because I posted a 'vulgar' kissing post.
Memories are very short on this forum but that's babble.
For now that's all I've got.
Posted by Kath on August 4, 2009, at 10:25:55
In reply to Re: Hmmmmmm - I guess I'd fail bigtime at the less, posted by TexasChic on August 3, 2009, at 23:05:47
> Sounds to me like maybe you're pretty normal actually! I was a little afraid of being made fun of too. I deleted half my post because of that!
>
> -T~ ~ Wow TC - it's Really good to hear that!! Yeah - I was nervous that someone would put me down about it & I already feel like somewhat of a freak about it! In so many movies the kissing scenes certainly seem to involve lots of vigorous tongue activity! But I have noticed that some movie kissing is the type that I like.
Thanks for being open about this TC.
((you))
love, Kath
PS - I found it sorta cool that you'd made out with scads of guys & only slept with 2!
Posted by Kath on August 4, 2009, at 10:33:02
In reply to Re: Hmmmmmm - I guess I'd fail bigtime at the lessons » Kath, posted by Dinah on August 3, 2009, at 21:41:31
Thanks Dinah for sharing where you're at about this. Also, if your therapist is saying it's not particularly unusual, that's telling me that there are lots of others like me! Maybe I'm not such a freak about it as I thought.
My husband doesn't mind either.
I am going to read the Wikipedia article about kissing
hugs, Kath
> ((( Kath )))
>
> I was feeling kind of sensitive about it myself today. Even though it was far better with my husband than it was with anyone else, it's still not anywhere on my list of favorite activities.
> My therapist said it's not particularly unusual. The only thing that surprises him about me is that there was no particular history to account for what has been an issue for me since I was old enough for it to be an issue.
>
> Fortunately my husband finds my other fine and useful qualities are more than sufficient to compensate. :)
>
> (I checked with him to make sure.)
>
> To tell you the truth, I kind of wonder who on earth thought up that activity? The Wikipedia article on kissing might be interesting to you.
Posted by Kath on August 4, 2009, at 10:37:55
In reply to Re: Kissing lessons, posted by Sigismund on August 3, 2009, at 23:13:49
Hi Siggi,
We say "out the back" here - not sure if it's an across-Canada thing.
What do you call 'garbage' in Australia? I think in the U.S. they say, 'I'll put out the trash'
I'd say 'I'll put out the garbage'. And we say garbage can as opposed to trash can.In Canada we use the letter 'u' in words that have no 'u' in the US. For example, neighbour, favour. Do you put the 'u' in those words?
Kath
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