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Posted by Jed_9 on December 21, 2003, at 18:21:19
Does anyone know how nitrious oxide (Laughing gas) effects the brain? Like does it cause brain damage? I guess the denists wouldn't use it if it did but they're mixing in some oxygen in it.
Any experts out there that know?
What do you think?
Posted by Jed_9 on December 21, 2003, at 18:23:47
In reply to Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by Jed_9 on December 21, 2003, at 18:21:19
Also, do you think it could trigger a psychotic episode which lasts much longer. Say if a schizophrenic or bipolar patient takes it after a while could they become psychotic again if in remission.
Thanks
Posted by sailor on December 21, 2003, at 21:54:52
In reply to Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by Jed_9 on December 21, 2003, at 18:21:19
Jed--I'm not a nitrous oxide user, but I know from reading that some of the "brain damage" from its use has been from oxygen deprivation because users (abusers) inhaled it exclusively through a ballon, with repeated inhales and no fresh air, i.e., oxygen. However, the brain would normally go unconscious under such a stress, and the user revert to normal breathing (not through a balloon) before any permanent damage could occur.
As to possible effects of NO2 intoxication on a co-existing mental illness condition...well, I think common sense would suggest that yes, it could make things worse, even precipitate a crisis. At least in the short haul. However, in my opinion, the effects would be limited and non-permanent. In other words, one's chances of recovery should be good. But why take chances? The prudent path here, for one struggling with a disorder or illness would be to avoid inhalants for recreational purposes and, if necessary, rely upon the expertise of a trained anaesthitist. Just one view. Regards, Captain Brion
Posted by Caleb462 on December 21, 2003, at 23:23:25
In reply to Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by Jed_9 on December 21, 2003, at 18:21:19
> Does anyone know how nitrious oxide (Laughing gas) effects the brain? Like does it cause brain damage? I guess the denists wouldn't use it if it did but they're mixing in some oxygen in it.
>
> Any experts out there that know?
> What do you think?
>Nitrous Oxide is what is know as an NMDA antagonist. Many psychoactive drugs are NMDA Antagonists, including Ketamine, PCP, and DXM.
If you don't know what this means, do a search on google for "NMDA Antagonists." There should be lots of information.Can the gas itself cause brain damage? I don't know, but as the other poster said - most reports of brain damage from N20 usage are because of oxygen deprivation. I don't think it has been determind whether or not N20 itself causes any damage. One dangerous thing N20 most certainly DOES do is deplete the body of Vitamin B12.
Occasional recreational use is probably no big deal, but I wouldn't gamble with regular use of the stuff. It can be quite psychologically addicting, just so you know.
Posted by stjames on December 22, 2003, at 13:07:06
In reply to Re: Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by Caleb462 on December 21, 2003, at 23:23:25
N2O can displace O2 and you die.
Posted by ian24 on December 22, 2003, at 16:45:16
In reply to Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by Jed_9 on December 21, 2003, at 18:21:19
Nitous oxide cause pleasant feelings by Stealing oxygne from hemoglobin and therefore cutting off oxygen to the brain. It is very bad. I think the way dentists use it is monitored and mixed with oxygen. Doing it on your own is stupid and dangerous. Some kids broke into a dentists office once and one died doing it. It also destroys the liver. Another thing is , I've had those 6 foot cylinders and some are medical and some are industrial. If it is industrial it has impurities in it like metal dust etc.
Posted by Jeffrey on December 23, 2003, at 13:25:24
In reply to Re: Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by ian24 on December 22, 2003, at 16:45:16
I used to use N2O at Dead shows. I would inhale the balloons until I went temorarily unconcious. It was fun but now seems truly stupid. I have also wondered whether my Nitrous baloons or other drugs used at shows had any permanent effect. I have anxiety/panic/ocd issues. I used acid, mushrooms and ecstacy many times. My advice is avoid the nitrous if you have any issues.
Best wishes.
Posted by krazybirdlady on December 26, 2003, at 18:26:26
In reply to Re: Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by Jeffrey on December 23, 2003, at 13:25:24
OK..short form...at the least it will cause exasperation of mental illness...at most it will cause death....nuff' said...
Posted by Jed_9 on December 28, 2003, at 5:13:46
In reply to Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by Jed_9 on December 21, 2003, at 18:21:19
I found this web site an interesting place for laughing gas:
http://www.resort.com/~banshee/Info/N2O/N2O.html
It gives warnings about the use of it and how to use it, but I would stay away from those professional dealers ways. Wow, talk about the risks.
(But I sure must say in small amounts it is a damn a lot of fun, in my opionon).
One reference in a movie is found in the Grateful Dead Movie circa 1970s and they had a tank back stage with pipes being passed around and they were just having the time of their lives. BTW, Their music and any music blends well with the gas. Lyrics and music become much more profound and interesting for any band.
Just my opinion
Posted by Jed_9 on December 28, 2003, at 5:26:42
In reply to Re: Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by Jed_9 on December 28, 2003, at 5:13:46
SAFETY FIRST - BUT please doing it sitting or laying down with a ballon or small whip cream maker mixer. Or else You can fall and hurt yourself. Also, i've personally known kids who have stolen a N2O tank from a dentist and proceeded to open the regulator in their boxed in car!!!! thus leading to suffication and dead. Such a shame. Cause they were so high they couldn't turn it off. Such a shame and bless their souls.
Posted by Jed_9 on December 28, 2003, at 6:02:51
In reply to Re: Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by Jed_9 on December 28, 2003, at 5:13:46
But it's so fuckin' fun!!!!
we need am expert dealinger with HIGH QUALITY medical grade stuff for folks b who need it and how to get them to release quality stuff to the public. I would even condiser going on tour with this discreetly set up.Let me know. Hope you all have been having happy holidays!
Cheers
Posted by Jeffrey on December 28, 2003, at 18:53:30
In reply to Re: Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by Jed_9 on December 28, 2003, at 6:02:51
It is fun but wouldnt touch it now. The days of Grateful Dead shows are long over. My last show was 7-2-95- also the last time I did acid and n2o. Jed, use caution if you use n2o, it is "hippie crack" and very addictive. Happy holidays to all.
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 29, 2003, at 16:54:43
In reply to Re: Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by Jed_9 on December 28, 2003, at 6:02:51
> But it's so f[*]ckin' fun!!!!
It may be, but please don't use language that could offend others:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by shadyut on January 5, 2004, at 15:26:34
In reply to Re: Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by Jeffrey on December 28, 2003, at 18:53:30
I don't know about Nitrious, but when I used to do wippits(duster) back in the day, I felt extremely dumb the next morning. Couldn't think straight at all.
Posted by KimberlyDi on January 16, 2004, at 12:16:27
In reply to Nitrious Oxide N2O (laughing gas), posted by Jed_9 on December 21, 2003, at 18:21:19
I'm more concerned about the legal use of N2O in the dentist's office interacting with the AD that I might be taking then. I used to have severe panic attacks at the dentists office after a terrible experience getting all 4 wisdom teeth removed at the same time. In the past, I required both laughing gas and an anti-anxiety pill. I had calmed down enough to only need the N2O except for the last time. While taking Effexor, I had a cavity. The N2O only seemed to aggravate my anxiety, and I couldn't stop shaking.
Was it an interaction with Effexor?
> Does anyone know how nitrious oxide (Laughing gas) effects the brain? Like does it cause brain damage? I guess the denists wouldn't use it if it did but they're mixing in some oxygen in it.
>
> Any experts out there that know?
> What do you think?
>
Posted by shar on January 25, 2004, at 0:31:54
In reply to Nitrious Oxide N2O plus Effexor.. bad combo?, posted by KimberlyDi on January 16, 2004, at 12:16:27
I've had nitrous at the dentist for many years, and through Serzone, Risperdal, Wellbutrin, and Effexor (over the years), and haven't noticed any problems. But, I also secretly take half a klonopin before I go (and never tell them).
Shar
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