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Posted by shadyut on December 24, 2003, at 12:41:04
In reply to Re: Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by krazybirdlady on December 18, 2003, at 19:11:27
The Insanity has begun once again ladies and Gentleman. Cheers!!!!
Posted by shadyut on December 24, 2003, at 12:44:10
In reply to Re: Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by shadyut on December 24, 2003, at 12:41:04
PS. Hey Lady, do you Canucks celebrate Christmas up north???lol
Posted by krazybirdlady on December 26, 2003, at 14:30:05
In reply to Re: Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by shadyut on December 24, 2003, at 12:44:10
unghhh, ya we do Christmas...we do Thanksgiving too, only it's in October. Cleveland huh? is that in Europe somewhere???
Posted by shadyut on December 26, 2003, at 18:17:58
In reply to Re: Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by krazybirdlady on December 26, 2003, at 14:30:05
Well, I do take pills, don’t do speed,
Don’t do crack, don’t do coke, I do smoke weed,
Don’t do smack, I do do shrooms,
Do drink beer, I just wanted to make a few things clear, I am a C-Town Clown, haven't you ever heard of LeBron James? or the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame????
Posted by krazybirdlady on December 26, 2003, at 18:54:50
In reply to Re: Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by shadyut on December 26, 2003, at 18:17:58
OK party boy...what pills??? now you're in my territory...
Posted by shadyut on December 26, 2003, at 21:09:33
In reply to Re: Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by krazybirdlady on December 26, 2003, at 18:54:50
Pretty much any pretty pill. X....Viccadin...Soma..Darvacet...Soma...any muscle relaxer...percacet...no oxy (although never had the opportunity to thank god!!!) Ridallin... adderall....etc...
Posted by krazybirdlady on December 28, 2003, at 16:12:06
In reply to Re: Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by shadyut on December 26, 2003, at 21:09:33
are you kidding me??? hopefully not every day. hopefully not in combination with each other. you are playing with fire my friend. and i'm guessing that this is NOT a family tradition...
Posted by Lindsay Rae on January 3, 2004, at 22:01:56
In reply to Re: Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by shadyut on December 26, 2003, at 21:09:33
> Pretty much any pretty pill. X....Viccadin...Soma..Darvacet...Soma...any muscle relaxer...percacet...no oxy (although never had the opportunity to thank god!!!) Ridallin... adderall....etc...
Pardon my bluntness, but do you want help or attention or both?
Posted by shadyut on January 4, 2004, at 1:23:09
In reply to Re: Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by Lindsay Rae on January 3, 2004, at 22:01:56
Just attention Lindsay!! And I especially appreciate it from you ladies!!! Gave up on help a long time ago. Tried Lexapro to chill me out, but couldn't sleep on it, so I gotta slam a few every night to sleep. Sorry, no success story here!
Posted by shadyut on January 6, 2004, at 2:41:10
In reply to Re: Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by shadyut on January 4, 2004, at 1:23:09
Talk to me Bird Lady, you are much more fun than this Lindsay chick!!! She's the one that sits in the corner and bitches about everyone else while we're trying to have a good time!!!!! A true downer to any party!!!!
Posted by krazybirdlady on January 6, 2004, at 15:23:45
In reply to Re: Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by shadyut on January 6, 2004, at 2:41:10
awww..shady...you don't know me very well do you???
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 7, 2004, at 1:05:04
In reply to Re: Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by shadyut on January 6, 2004, at 2:41:10
> this Lindsay chick [is] the one that sits in the corner and bitches about everyone else while we're trying to have a good time!!!!! A true downer to any party!!!!
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by shadyut on January 7, 2004, at 2:14:25
In reply to Re: please be civil » shadyut, posted by Dr. Bob on January 7, 2004, at 1:05:04
Me put down others??? Never!!!! I'm ShadyUT, I spread joy wherever I go! I feel very special right now knowing that The Man himself actually responded to one of my posts. You are good peoples Bingo Bobby and much appreciated by all on this forum. One quesation, what's your PHD in??? Adios!!!!!
Posted by Mats on January 8, 2004, at 5:42:36
In reply to Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by shadyut on December 13, 2003, at 22:23:44
hi!
alcohol is the no 1 drug in the world in my opinion!
Posted by EmmyS on January 8, 2004, at 21:08:59
In reply to Re: Hey guys I'm an Alcoholic, posted by Mats on January 8, 2004, at 5:42:36
No lectures. If anyone IS interested in trying to quit drinking, try Topamax.
Google search on Topamax and "alcohol cravings". Articles were published last summer and fall showing excellent results. I personally aware of several recent amazing success stories.
Ramp up from slowly from 25mg to 100mg or whatever you doc tells you. Stops those fun carb cravings too.
Life is better without hangovers.
Posted by krazybirdlady on January 9, 2004, at 16:04:46
In reply to Topamax and Alcoholism, posted by EmmyS on January 8, 2004, at 21:08:59
yet another anti-epileptic drug. are these fashionable these days? if it worked for you...then that's great! but you must realize that you must want help first, and want to stop. how much of it do you contribute to the drug, and how much of it do you contribute to your wanting to stop? just wondering...AA has high records of success too. maybe they should try to put it into a pill form...
Posted by helenag on January 9, 2004, at 22:42:37
In reply to Topamax and Alcoholism, posted by EmmyS on January 8, 2004, at 21:08:59
> No lectures. If anyone IS interested in trying to quit drinking, try Topamax.
>
> Google search on Topamax and "alcohol cravings". Articles were published last summer and fall showing excellent results. I personally aware of several recent amazing success stories.
>
> Ramp up from slowly from 25mg to 100mg or whatever you doc tells you. Stops those fun carb cravings too.Yes, I am very aware of the research done on Topamax and alcoholics, as is my pdoc. Have been on the drug since July for mood stabilization and for alcohol cravings.
Results: Great med for mood stabilization and side effects are sometimes bothersome: tingling in hands and feet, cognitive slowness at times, like trying to remember someone's name or the name of a book or movie or phone number and you can't... plus loss of appetite. I started at 50mg and have titrated up to 300mg a day.
As far as working for cravings: NADA. The drug has not done that at all for me. Alcoholics will drink regardless; I suggest reading the chapter in the Big Book about "More About Alcoholism" There is no magic bullet, unfortunately. Just like when someone relapses, they are asked why they didn't call someone...what a question!!! Anyone who wants to drink badly enough will drink.
Perhaps topamax can help some folks, that is wonderful. Everyone is different. But for this alcoholic, the solution doesn't come in a prescription vial.
>
> Life is better without hangovers.
>
Posted by krazybirdlady on January 10, 2004, at 1:15:37
In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by shadyut on January 7, 2004, at 2:14:25
woohoo, you got told...are you still out there, by the way? as far as spreading joy, it depends on your outlook. it can be a double-edged sword to some...LOL. take care with the pretty pills..anything pretty is dangerous (but you know that)...BTW i am not a lady..i am a B__ch!...LOL
Posted by antigua on January 10, 2004, at 8:29:45
In reply to Re:topamax and alcohol » EmmyS, posted by helenag on January 9, 2004, at 22:42:37
Stupid question probably because you seem to know what you're doing, but have you tried naltrexone? While I don't believe any drug could stop my cravings because I know I drink to escape my emotions, I have tried this drug. It didn't stop my cravings but when I did have a drink I didn't get high and/or didn't feel good. Surprisingly that seemed enough to make me stop (for that night anyway!). At this point, knowing that I won't get that warmy, numb feeling has kept me from drinking today at least.
antigua
Posted by EmmyS on January 10, 2004, at 10:21:16
In reply to Re:topamax and alcohol » EmmyS, posted by helenag on January 9, 2004, at 22:42:37
To say that alcoholics will drink regardless does not explain why Topamax worked better than the placebo in the double blind studies I looked at. I don't sell the stuff. I'm just reporting what I read.
I'll find the journal citations if anyone is interested.
Of course it is not a magic pill, and of course it won't help everyone and yup, it's going to have side affects. I just know that it's new for a lot of people and it's something to try in addition to AA and other supports. Because it didn't help you doesn't mean it won't help anyone.
I'm just offering some info to those who had not heard of a new possible tool to add to their their arsenel. Em
Posted by krazybirdlady on January 10, 2004, at 17:13:55
In reply to Re:topamax and alcohol, posted by EmmyS on January 10, 2004, at 10:21:16
of course Emmy, you are right, if it helps, it helps! naltrexone is also a thought, but it's just like antabuse in as much as you must TAKE it....
Posted by helenag on January 12, 2004, at 18:43:09
In reply to Re:topamax and alcohol, posted by EmmyS on January 10, 2004, at 10:21:16
It was not my intention to say that topamax would not help some alcoholics, only that medications would not effect a cure for alcoholism.
I have read about the studies and know that the folks who took topamax drank less than those on the placebo. There is also a radio show that has a web site, The Infinite Mind, that had the researcher who performed the study on their show.
Alcoholism is a many-faceted thing. I guess it is important to realize that medication to decrease cravings is only, as you say, one more thing to add to the arsenal, not the arsenal itself.
It's because of my own experience with the drug that I say this. I could not rely on topamax to keep me sober, and it did not solve the problem of craving for me. This does not mean, however, that is doesn't do this for others. If there was a pill that would make me immune from the "charms" of alcohol, I'd be first in line for a dose. But I doubt there will ever be one because, as I strongly suspect, there are many levels to addiction besides physical.
Peace, Helen.
Posted by shadyut on January 13, 2004, at 13:17:40
In reply to Re:topamax and alcohol, posted by krazybirdlady on January 10, 2004, at 17:13:55
Me get Told??? I'm an O.G., you're messin with a GI Joe..... Bia Bia, mia meo a vida loca
I'm a psycho, KrazyBird you aint got shit on me....
when I retire I'll be spittin baby food on people...But I guess it's do unto others as you'd have 'em do unto you,
But you better be careful of who you're doin' it to,
Cuz you never know when the shoe,
Could end up on the other foot and it backfires on you!!!!! PS. I gotta Pee in a cup for three months, I'm havin an E party for Easter, Please Come!!!!
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 13, 2004, at 21:19:18
In reply to Re:topamax and alcohol HeY LadY, posted by shadyut on January 13, 2004, at 13:17:40
> you aint got sh[*]t on me....
Sorry to be a prude, but please don't use language that could offend others. I've asked you before to be civil, so now I'm going to block you from posting for a week.
Bob
PS: Follow-ups regarding posting policies should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration; otherwise, they may be deleted.
Posted by krazybirdlady on January 14, 2004, at 16:48:43
In reply to Re:topamax and alcohol HeY LadY, posted by shadyut on January 13, 2004, at 13:17:40
when i retire i'll be spittin baby food on people..
Shady (if you decide to come back here), i must ask?? you are employed?? as in a job?? wow, that's scary...check and MATE.....
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