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Posted by Kim_Laura on February 2, 2006, at 22:53:22
I came off Subutex about 3 months ago, I want to use heroin again recreationally. Firstly, I waited 1 week for the Subutex to exit my system and tried using heroin, with no effect! Then I took Naltrexone to blast any Opoids off my receptors and waited another week and tried using heroin again, again with no affect!! I then waited 2 weeks, tried using heroin again, still with no affect!!! I then waited 24 days, using no narcotics at all, then tried using heroin again, still with no affect!!! During all of this period I have been taking Valium, Lovan, Amphetamines and alcohol and I am wondering if any of these drugs are stopping the Subutex/Naltrexone exiting my system??? This is becoming a problem for me because I need to get high and I feel that taking heroin once a week is safer than blasting my mind with amphetamines, Valium and alcohol daily! If anybody has any information or experienced similar conditions, PLEASE could you help me? Contact me?
Posted by fenix on February 2, 2006, at 22:53:22
In reply to Using heroin after subutex, posted by Kim_Laura on February 2, 2006, at 3:19:40
Yeah, first of all, stop using heroin. I know it feels great but it can be dangerous because you don't always know what you are getting, and what strength, and whether the needles were shared etc. (I have never used heroin btw, this is just what I think though.)
It may be hard to stop heroin... you could try to take valium for a few days to help with any withdrawal you may experience. Please don't mix valium with alcohol!
Oh, and stop mixing so many things! That is dangerous. You should look into a substance known as Kratom which acts much like opiates, that would actually be a very useful adjunct in weening off of hard stuff like heroin.
I wish I had more experience with this stuff to help you... however, Kratom seems to be a really good idea.
Oh and if you were not getting any effect from heroin... maybe your tolerance is too high? This stuff just happens I guess. Maybe you should just use benzos for a few months and then try starting an opiate again slowly, one that is not as potent as heroin and see what happens.
*Oh, and I am not encouraging any illegal activity here, please seek some help maybe from a doctor to get the required benzos, opiates etc.*
Posted by ed_uk on February 2, 2006, at 22:53:22
In reply to Re: Using heroin after subutex, posted by fenix on February 2, 2006, at 5:48:26
I suspect what you were told was heroin actually wasn't heroin!
Ed
Posted by fenix on February 2, 2006, at 22:53:23
In reply to Re: Using heroin after subutex, posted by ed_uk on February 2, 2006, at 13:00:12
Posted by Phillipa on February 2, 2006, at 22:53:23
In reply to Re: Using heroin after subutex, posted by ed_uk on February 2, 2006, at 13:00:12
Are we on substance abuse? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by James K on February 3, 2006, at 0:17:52
In reply to Re: Using heroin after subutex, posted by Phillipa on February 2, 2006, at 21:00:58
Getting high takes alot of work.. Naltrexone will block the receptores, similiar to suboxente.. It is hard to find a doctor who is allowed to use suboxene in Americal. Natltrexone made me feel terrible. I had to wait a while before I could feel anything, similiar to How I was scared to take alcohol after being on antabuse. but after I stopped naltrexone I waited, then, pain pills worked again. Just like I had to wait before I dared drink after I took antabuse. So If you waited that long, you got bunk. Please seek treatment, so you don't have to end up like me, I'm going to seek treatment as soon as I get my eyes fixed with lasik, because i don't want to get into any fights while I wear glasses or contacts.
james K
Posted by reefer on February 5, 2006, at 20:54:45
In reply to Using heroin after subutex, posted by Kim_Laura on February 2, 2006, at 3:19:40
You didn't get Heroin. That's it. You probably got some lactose spiced with vinegar to make it smell a bit like H.
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