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Posted by Cincykid on May 21, 2007, at 8:28:18
Hello,I am a man I live in Ohio and for 12 years I have had a bad opiate addiction brought on by perscription pain meds,it started with an accident at work where I got 4 fingers actually taken off,I was put on Vicodein and percocet,well the doctors finaaly moved me to a pain care clinic where they placed me on Oxycontin,I started out on four tens a day,that went too four twentys and so on until I got to 3 eights a day I was hooked because when I tried to quit I couldnt,then I ran into a buddy who said hey I know what you can get on that wont make you feel high and you can live almost a (normal) life.I said great so I left the pain care clinic and went too the methadone clinic,withen two years I had gained over 100lbs,my leggs and body retained so mych water that 180 mg of lasics want even working,three more years went by which brings me to now,I started a detox in October of 2006 and I was on 150mg of liquid methadone I am now on 30mg going down 2mg every Tues.This Tues I move to 28mg..My point is folks Im proof if you want off its possible without getteing to awfully sick so far,I hope my story inspiers as many people as it possibly can to get off from opiates they are a slow silent killer:I would like to use this thread to help others in their quest for getting and remaining clean from opiates,illegal and perscribed...I in noway am a Doctor nor do I make any request that someone should do a detox:Thats an individual thing that needs to be decided by the individual...But Ill be here to help those who request it by telling them how Im doen it...Thank You ver much for listening:
Respectfully,Cincykid
Posted by Cincykid on May 21, 2007, at 20:04:40
In reply to Opiate Addiction and Detox:Tell your story:, posted by Cincykid on May 21, 2007, at 8:28:18
Oh boy today I went to the doctor to have a checkup and I thought I broke my toe when I tripped on the outside steps,it was a fractured foot,well no opiates here i had him give me the best he had that wasnt like an opiate(like drinken O.J. at a bar)I got Ibruprofen 800 mg..Im kool I hurt still but Im kool...My wife lost 20.00 she thinks the pizza man stole it and she is driven me nuts lol...But all is kool I move too 28mg tomorrow,Im feeling lathargic nothing new thought every sence Ive used methadone I have been lathagic,oh yea and to beat all Im haven kid problems and its the oldest who is 21,my solution......Get detoxed.....move too Tenn. problem solved yeeeeeee haaaaaaw.....Gene:)
Posted by Cincykid on May 23, 2007, at 8:31:50
In reply to Re: Opiate Addiction and Detox:Tell your story:, posted by Cincykid on May 21, 2007, at 20:04:40
Yesterday I moved to 28mg feeling basically the same as I have for the past three months,tired and always wondering what tomorrow will bring,I try too live day by day "one day at a time" but I beleive that will become much easier after Im completly off from the methadone.
My oldest daughter and her boyfriend came in loaded on vodka and I had to get nasty with him,they live here and well Im gonna have to make a change,I did it because my little granddaughter,I wanted to make sure she always had a place considering they could never meet their bills,now I know why and its made me dislike him that much more,and its also gave me a very good insite on my daughter,she said things to me noone should ever say to their parents and she also raised her hand to her mother 21 or not thats pure disrepect and she will have alot of maken up to do for her mother and I to forget this we can always forgive we are her parents,but forgetting is another thing.Myself and my wife do not drink so its not like were all a bunch of drunks,and my daughter was raised in a family where alcohol was always a problem but not in the immediate family so it seemed she could see what it's done to others like her aunts and uncles,but we never even had as much as a beer in the fridge,every now and then ill have a beer but thats my limit and years may go by before I even have another,well ive rambled enough and feel a little better I sure wish others would tell of their Detox from drugs any kind including alcohol,maybe it will make me understand what Im going through a little better,so please feel free to post your experiances here..........Thank you,The Kid.
Posted by scratchpad on May 23, 2007, at 15:33:45
In reply to Re: Opiate Addiction and Detox:Tell your story:, posted by Cincykid on May 23, 2007, at 8:31:50
Hi Cincykid, welcome to babble. My experience has been with alcohol. I drank daily for 20 years. (I don't often see it written out in plain english like that, wowza!) I've been sober for 1 year and 9 months, having made many, many less successful attempts in the past to do so. The difference for me came with entering an intensive outpatient support group - thanks to the encouragement of a fellow babbler, I might add. I attended 5 nights a week for 6 weeks, and although it was a mixed experience (I didn't care for the group leader), I can't deny that overall it helped me through a crucial stage in my sobriety. Also the prescription for Campral, which suppresses the physical craving for alcohol, has been instrumental in my success.
I see a therapist several times a month. I do not attend AA meetings, having found that, over the years, they are a major trigger for me. In the past I have been able to gain support from an alternative group called Women For Sobriety. At the moment I'm in touch with a former work colleague who is undergoing her own journey in recovery from addiction.
It's very liberating and empowering to be able to share our stories with others. Having a dual diagnosis, or I guess, a triple for me (addiction, depression and anxiety) has its own set of challenges. I don't hesitate to say that babble has been instrumental in my recovery, and I encourage you to continue posting here about your experiences. There is some kind of rule about posting more than 3 times in a row in a single thread, so you might want to read the FAQs on that.
My dad was an alcoholic and died young (age 54). Growing up in a sick house certainly shaped my attitudes about self esteem. I am still dealing with those issues today; it seems that it's an ongoing process.
nice to meet you,
Scratchpad
Posted by Cincykid on May 24, 2007, at 9:26:45
In reply to Re:Tell your story: » Cincykid, posted by scratchpad on May 23, 2007, at 15:33:45
Scratchpad,
Hey a nice to meet you and Im glad you told your story I gain inspiration from sucess stories but I also learn from the storys of folks struggleing to overcome their addictions,Thanks for the welcome and I hope I dont break any rules because I became upset with another site because they wanted to make sure they controlled how and what was said..I cant recover in an enviroment like that I still go there because I have a few friends there but I dont go there like I used too,being on 28mg of methadone after being on 150mg in october of 2006 is such a morale booster and the thing is I dont feel a bit sick,a little tired yea but as I said thats methadone,it sinks itself into your bone marrow also maken it one hell of a drug too shake,I beleive they say there is a 3% success rate for those who try to Detox themselves,Im in that 3%.My father and step dad were both alcoholics ive never got any couseling on that actually I dont even want to open that up,you have been sober over a year (that is a remarkable thing in its own keep up the good work and please come back and visit me anytime...our Friend ,Cincykid....P.S.Lets hear about somemore folks who have either detoxed or are in the middle of a detox:
(Ive got a grip,now I need to make it through the Dip)
Posted by Sigismund on May 29, 2007, at 20:57:43
In reply to Re:Tell your story:, posted by Cincykid on May 24, 2007, at 9:26:45
Well, I've stopped methadone after forever and feel below par on a continuous basis, as you might expect.
I don't expect it to get any better than this, or if it does something else will get worse at the same time.You may be interested, Cincy, that I spent several years on doses below 2.5mg/d, so you can't do it more gently than that.
Still, the sooner you can do it the more likely you are to be able to regain a decent balance.I had a bit of a soft spot for 20mg/d as a dose, which seemed to be significantly less toxic.
You must have found 150mg/d pretty awful, but no worse than the alternative, I expect.
Posted by revaaron on July 4, 2007, at 1:09:22
In reply to Opiate Addiction and Detox:Tell your story:, posted by Cincykid on May 21, 2007, at 8:28:18
I can share more if you're interested, email me at revXaaron at hoXtmaiXl dot com (take out the Xes). But this I will say:
After 6 years of opiate use, I've stopped. Loperamide in very large doses (it's nothing scary, just an opiate that doesn't cross the BBB barrier very well) has been a godsend and main reason I've been able to actually quit. I'm with with trying to convince people, but it works for some people, including me.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=5088264&postcount=44
Since quitting, I've had some huge improvements in my quality of life. I don't have any chronic pain, it was just recreational use, so I don't have that to contend with. Since quitting: I've had a lot of aches and pains disappear- I'd always wake up stiff and achey, but that's gone now; I sleep less, but am better rested; sleep apnea has disappeared; sex life has gotten a 100x better; I've tons more energy, motivation and I am worlds happier. Other things too, but those are the biggies.
I never hit "rock bottom" by any stretch of the imagination, but taking opiates was no longer getting me high in the way it did for the first couple of years. It's been a few months since I stopped, and I've not had any since, and happy to keep it that way for a long time- if only to get rid of thoserandom aches and have the ability to make love to my wife spontaneously.
Don't get me wrong, I miss the opiates a ton, and I'm sure I will more in the summer. But why keep taking a drug you miss so bad when it doesn't make you feel like the drug you miss? In a lot of ways, the drug I fell in love with is simply gone, unavailable even if I had a million bucks and access to every opiate in the world. The euphoria and energy is long gone, replaced with sedation, lethargy and sometimes dysphoria.
Glad to rid of it!
revaaron
Posted by Sigismund on July 19, 2007, at 3:48:55
In reply to Re: Opiate Addiction and Detox:Tell your story:, posted by revaaron on July 4, 2007, at 1:09:22
>But why keep taking a drug you miss so bad when it doesn't make you feel like the drug you miss? In a lot of ways, the drug I fell in love with is simply gone, unavailable even if I had a million bucks and access to every opiate in the world. The euphoria and energy is long gone, replaced with sedation, lethargy and sometimes dysphoria.
Yes, that's how it became with me.
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