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Posted by gazalondon on January 28, 2005, at 11:06:45
In reply to Re: How I stoped smoking WEED, posted by wilson711 on January 11, 2005, at 13:00:09
I have been smoking for the last 5 years, and have just realised that apart from travelling abroad on holiday i have probably had a joint near enough every day of my adult life. I am going to roll one last joint and give up, for a while at least. I think it has made me too lethargic and i want to pass my BA Hons. Most of my mates smoke loads or some have moved onto stronger stuff
I'm not sure why i started, and to be honest i am not sure what I will be like when I stop, (I hope i'm not boring!!!)
I live in the UK and smoking weed is really common these days and you smell it very often in the streets
Feel its a real piss take (boom, boom) that random drug testing can occur, if you do the job properly and not getting stoned in work time it shouldn't be anyones business.Good luck to you all!!!
Gaz
Posted by HoldenYosarian on February 13, 2005, at 0:02:16
In reply to Re: How I stoped smoking WEED, posted by Sebastian on January 6, 2005, at 21:23:32
Sebastion: You most likely have ADD-ADHD issues. Most adults have only the ADD, and many children had only ADD, without the hyperactivity, and were never diagnosed, and not even a problem, since they were mostly spaced out alot of the time, and therefore causing more trouble. Thing is, the people who like weed most, NEED weed most, to the point they eventually build their lives around it...have undiagnosed ADD that THC , in effect, treats. So go get tested for ADD, that would be my advice. ADD has all sorts of accompanying difficulties which the average person wouldn't relate to ADD, difficulty in relating to others and making friends being among the most prevalent.
I don't know what meds you're on--or who's giving you the zyprexa, but that crap isn't anything to fool around with. You might have noticed the advertisements for class action suits against the makers of zyprexa, lately. And the more serious physiological effects are only part of the story. Chances are that, even at a small dose, it's having the effect of putting you in the sort of stupor during the day, or at least dulling your faculties to the point that you don't even feel like doing anything, much less something as active and challenging as making new friends. Anyway, please let me know more about your situation, and if you get the ADD test.
Posted by Eve1979 on February 13, 2005, at 1:50:26
In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too! » TexasChic, posted by partlycloudy on July 28, 2004, at 8:57:24
I am so glad I found these posts. I am new to this website but it's great! Anyways I am a daily weed smoker and i live in Cali. which is known for having the best weed and i smoke the best hydro chronic there is. I have been smoking every day for about 3 years and I need to quit. I've known this for a while now, the reason i continue to smoke is because I have depression, anxiety and add symptoms and it seem to help with that, it also helps me focus, but now i realize that I need to deal with my illness, so I went to a p doc., this is a new one , I had been seeing a p. doc a few years ago and he put me on prozac and celexa..those meds didnt work for me so i just kept smoking. This new p doc seems alot better then my last but she put me on cymbalta and restoral. Cymbalta made me so sick so now I am on wellbutrin, today was my first day on wellbutin but i still smoked. I am quiting tho, I just smoked my last bowl and I am not buying anymore.
So any support I can get would be much appreciated. I'm gonna need it.
Posted by Paskeewookee on February 15, 2005, at 8:31:30
In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by Eve1979 on February 13, 2005, at 1:50:26
Hi, first sorry for my poor english. I used to smoke weed and mainly hasch for about 20 years now. I evaluate my average amount of joints a day around 4 for this period, which means I probably smoked about 30000 joints in my life (I'm 37). In january I decided it has to come to an end and I think I'm about to succeed. To be concrete, here is my "method":
1) stop immediately, do not think there is a progressive way of stopping.
2) avoid to meet your usual pothead friends for a while (could be long). This is hard but mandatory.
3) take something before you go to bed: there are many infusions on the market for instance, it won't help you that much in the beginning but keep on doing and convince yourself it will finally help
4) practice some endurance sport: walking, running, cycling...and make it as hard as possible ;-)
5) always know EXACTLY how many time you have been quitting. When you want to smoke, think this time will be ZERO afterwards and that you have been suffering for NOTHING (some software could help to monitor it)
6) proudly tell people you stopped
7) enjoy your dreams, I personally remember my dreams for the first time in 10 years !!!
8) don't lose to many time figuring out why you began. With time you will figure out anybody has (and need) an addiction, just find some that is not as heavy to live with (sport, books, sex,music, sleep...could be addictive too)
10) Don't think non-smoking people are not anxious, Anybody is anxious nowadays.That's it ;-) What surprised me is that it really been really hard for a few weeks, today I'm still thinking about it but I feel ggod to have that will, this is now a more rewarding experience than smoking a joint.
Posted by Sebastian on March 8, 2005, at 18:03:29
In reply to Re: How I stoped smoking WEED, posted by HoldenYosarian on February 13, 2005, at 0:02:16
Doctors say they think, but never diagnosed, my dad with ADD. None have ever said such a thing about me. For some reason I think they may have said they don't think I do. I hate weed, I smoked a little and my mind goes poop. Just does not work. I like to drink, but with my meds the doctor says I can't even have a drink for a whole month!!! I've been going crazy here, trying to substitute weed. But no luck. The funny thing is I don't think I drink that much, 1-2 drinks a day, or even none some times and now my liver has elevated levels. The MRI says, no problem with the liver, but still, I can't drink. Well I had it with the doctor, I had 1 yesterday and 2 tonight. It can't be that bad can it? I told her a realistic figure of 7 drinks in a week, and that was too much. Why? If so I need off some off these meds. Still working on the zyprexa issue, have taken it since '98. I belive you are right that it is killing my social life. I feel better on this lower dose, the only thing and I hate saying this it calms me, probably too much.
Posted by Questionmark on March 20, 2005, at 19:00:53
In reply to Re: How I stoped smoking WEED-sebastian is back » HoldenYosarian, posted by Sebastian on March 8, 2005, at 18:03:29
i don't know ( <-- key phrase here), but unless you're on something like a benzodiazepine (which can cause temporary severe amnesia & potentially death if too much is combined with alcohol, or vice versa) or a potentially-bad-for-your-liver drug (e.g. Serzone or Cylert), i personally don't think drinking on meds is typically that bad or dangerous for a person. Be aware, however, that drinking MAY be able to reduce the benefits of a medication for awhile.
Posted by bingcrosby on March 24, 2005, at 22:53:40
In reply to How to stop smoking WEED?, posted by Cottonwool on July 20, 2004, at 11:09:29
I started smoking when I was 13yr and now going on 41yr I still enjoy getting stoned from time to time and I have found it to be a great sexual enhancement between couples for both sexes. In my years of smoking I have come across many ways of stop smoking. The first is cold turkey. You will go through stages of being angered at anything and not be content. If you can do this for 3 to 4 days before the urgency for the drug starts to subside. You will start noticing you have more energy and breathing is easier. If things work out you will even get to where you dont like the smell and the high because of the way it brings you down. The only other way is to slowly break yourself by cutting down your in take untill you quit. I went 3yr without smoking before I picked up again and even now it is only for spicing up the bedroom. I had a super hard time with this when I first tried to quit because of the quanity I smoked. For 21yrs I could not do without it and things really got dry and so quit was no longer an option. I drink alot to subsitute for the high but it was not the same not to mention the amount of alcohol being consumed. Then finally burntout on the whole getting high thing I went straight for the first time in 21 yrs and after 2 days it felt like I was a different person and a cleaner person with clear mind instead of foggy. The bigest thing I have found that works is to have a dream to build or learn something. My drug kicker was drag racing cars. I have been lucky enough to live next to a driver and it has given me a better high to work with and learn. If you want it bad enough and you tell yourself enough and ask for it from above it will come. I am not a church goer butI found out there is something to it and asking him for help is only a matter of speaking the words and believing in it. I still would smoke but because of the negativity put upon it and making it illegal is only another way for the goverment to controll our freedom. It is really shamefully when you have people in jail for life for having nothing more than a little grass on them. They did not kill anyone and where everyday hard working people who chose another form of intoxication in stead of getting drunk. Quitting is not the easies thing in the world. But being releasd from its chains and being abled to get over it is a great freedom and achievement.
Posted by introuble on May 12, 2005, at 15:16:54
In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by anthology on August 1, 2004, at 16:33:19
Ok, here is how it goes...I hate weed and yet I love smoking it...it is destroying my life and yet am attached to it...its wasting my PhD and keep going back to it..obviousle the feeling of guilt is overburdening me for I dont tend to do what I should be doing..This PhD is my dream and I have everything that helps making my dream true..but mr WEED is on the way...I promised myself million times...you know the outcome..I bought a TV/DVD to busy myself with it and forget weed..it didnt work..I paid a hypnotherpaist about 600 dollars..it didnt work..I am almost losing my girlfriend because of moodiness...I became anti-social and angry all time and want to take it on my housemates, friends..basically any one I see...I quit my job because of this..and for each job I apply I become to think that its the end of the world...I cant think ahead and comfort myself..I have no patience at all...am so hesitant in doing anything..I keep filing things and never sort them out...I keep giving myself excuses to smoke weed: this is the last I smoke, the last time I buy (the dealer is within easy acces in town..nio matter where i live...)..I lost 20kilos in wieght..because weed makes you slow and lazy..so I can be bothered to cook or bring food...I have gone out in long journeys to clear my mind and make new decisions for the best..but always I am dragged to this habbit...I talk myself through it by prmoises and telling myself off..I even hit myself as I gave up on myself...am losing it..am losing myself..my girlfriend and above all my dream..my PhD...PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSSSSEEEEE....helppppppppppppppppppppppppppp......
Posted by antigua on May 18, 2005, at 11:08:53
In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by introuble on May 12, 2005, at 15:16:54
You don't have to do this alone. Reach out for some help. There's safety in numbers. We're here too, to help.
antigua
Posted by Levi on June 15, 2005, at 17:58:48
In reply to Re: ...-sebastian is back (Alcohol and Meds) » Sebastian, posted by Questionmark on March 20, 2005, at 19:00:53
Try some poppy tea sebastian it will inspire you
Posted by graniteboy on December 10, 2007, at 18:37:16
In reply to How to stop smoking WEED?, posted by Cottonwool on July 20, 2004, at 11:09:29
Looks like all the heads have either quit smokein or quit writing.Well I got to bring this back cause weed is a problem for me. I have been smoking for 11 years now and its been one of the only ways i make my self happy.I say this in knowing how i feel cause i have not smoked in 14 days now and i am just not my self any more. Mood swings depression and just flat old mean to people.I dont understand it most people say good things about quiting and how they feel after just days of not smoking.I not sure if its in my head or do i feel like this foreal.Well i know this is how i feel what i really want to know is how long is this going to go on or do i just need to hit a blunt a few times for depression.(my anit-depression)!!!!!!
Posted by graniteboy on December 12, 2007, at 20:14:21
In reply to Re: How to stop smoking WEED?, posted by graniteboy on December 10, 2007, at 18:37:16
This is like my own little diary but its all good cause i need it,but today is day 17 no pot hell no drugs or beer,ciggs any thing damn last time i was sober 100% i was like 15 its been real hard i dont care what anybody says but i hope day i will look back and be thankfull!
Posted by oldschool305 on December 14, 2007, at 8:05:23
In reply to Re: How to stop smoking WEED?, posted by graniteboy on December 12, 2007, at 20:14:21
Damn granite boy, that's awesome! Congrats on not smoking for 17 days!!! I wish I could quit the alcohol. I quit for like a month, but like you said, didn't feel like myself. I was constantly bored and never wanted to do anything... so I fell off the wagon and have been drinking again =\
I used to smoke weed here and there, but I get all weirded out when I smoke. I am one of those paranoid smokers, then it causes depression a few days after I quit. Un-controllable crying and anger!! I just pop off on people and curse everyone out. Weed, for reasons, helps a lot of people with their anxiety, etc.. Not me, it does the exact opposite.
Good luck on your journey of giving everything up. I hope to do the same someday, for ever!!
Posted by graniteboy on December 14, 2007, at 21:57:32
In reply to Re: How to stop smoking WEED?, posted by oldschool305 on December 14, 2007, at 8:05:23
Thanks alot oldschool for the encouragement i need it right now.One of my biggest fears is fallen off track,Well to tell the truth i have back step alittle,I went out of town this week to work and i was really feeling the presure so i got me some Black and milds and drank some wine,i dont even like wine thats why i got it so i wouldnt keep drinking it you know.But still no weed thank god.Today is day #19 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by graniteboy on December 16, 2007, at 21:18:06
In reply to Re: How to stop smoking WEED?, posted by graniteboy on December 14, 2007, at 21:57:32
Today has been a tough day.Man ive have been close to just going out of my mine.Seems like evryone is just trying to piss me off and evrything.Day 20 and im just about ready 2 get high.But im not going to give up just yet i have beat 3 or 4 addiction,and now I am not sure why Am quiting smoking ,i mean i know why i quit the hard stuff it was making life and me messed up and every decision i made was not about anybody or even me it was about getting messed up and hiding who i was really.Now i am trying to find my self and who i am,i want to know how life feels.I have been hiding from myself for a long time.I know life is going to be hard at times but i want to know i am living for me now,I want to raise my kids better than i was my self its only fair to them.I want to be free!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Armourking on May 5, 2008, at 12:32:30
In reply to How to stop smoking WEED?, posted by Cottonwool on July 20, 2004, at 11:09:29
ok all i know this post is a bit old but it's all i could find,
I too am in the same boat i live in nz so amsterdamm is out of the question.
I've been smoking it everyday for around 7 years with the longest break of about two weeks and it was that long ago i don't remember it,
It has now come to a point where i have to make a descion, i am using smoking to hide my problems, i keep thinking of changing careers as i am not happy (but its the smoking casuing this), my job is fun and challenging and pays very well, it is also hurting my relationship (i'm surprised she's still with me as she doesn't smoke) i smoke myself to sleep so we don't get much bed time together, My motivation and zest for life has gone all i worry about is getting stoned, its now 4am i'm up because i can't sleep because of back pain from eating too much while i have the munchies.
But i love it too much, coming home after a long hard day and having a cone is what i live for
But now it has gone too far. All my friends smoke it too but when we get together all we do is just get smashed and sit watching tv or ps3, what ever happened to going out and doing stuff as a group and not getting smashed? i'll tell you habit now all we know of is to go out and get smashed,
what i'm looking for is some advice on taking the urge away something to kill the time take my mind of what was once as common as taking a pee
cutting back is not an option as i have found with myself if i have it i wont stop until it's gone
Posted by luvinmomofone1 on May 6, 2008, at 7:43:52
In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by anthology on August 1, 2004, at 16:33:19
i have smoked weed for over 25 years and i just quit smoking ciggys on august 6th 2007. well since i quit the ciggys and there is sooo much stress going on at home i have turned back to my only vice..weed. i feel like a fiend..all i wanna do is smoke and smoke and we cannot afford it, what makes it worse is my son smokes and if i dont buy it he does or vice versa. i want us both to quit pretty soon hes gonna get a job that requires drug testing and he will need to be clean for that. i take 2mg.clonipin 3x daily for aniety and panic attacks, i can reduce that alot by smoking a little weed. the problem here is not weather i wanna quit or not..its that i need and have to quit
1 i am on section 8 houseing and could lose it if caught smoking weed
2 its a bad influence on my son and he wont stop even if i do
3 i think i just transfered my ciggy jones to a weed jones and so i really didnt quit at all
4 sometimes weed dont help me and makes me paranoid and i dont like that but i cant stop when it is offered or around
5 i dont do anything, not drink or hard drugs or smoke ciggys, weed is my only vice! but i am afraid i will get busted buying one of these days cuase in this small town they are busting alot of ppl for drugs..even sm. time ppl that just get caught smoking and not dealing. and it all felonly charges around here even if you only have a joint on you they will find a felony charge to book you on.
6 i have been clean off hard drugs..ex. meth/crank and heroin, and coke for over 20 years so i dont think that weed is that bad, actually i think it should be leagalized and alchol banned instead
i just wanted to state these facts about me and ask if there is an easy way to quit, i know i have will power cause i quit drugs cold turkey and i had a 2 gram a day habit where i slammed it every time. i also quit ciggys pretty easy with the help of wellbutrin..so why am i having such a hard time with the weed?
Posted by ClearSkies on May 6, 2008, at 14:57:52
In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by luvinmomofone1 on May 6, 2008, at 7:43:52
Hi there, I don't smoke any more but found when I first stopped drinking (I'm an alcoholic) that I definitely substituted weed for alcohol. I understand that it's fairly common for those of us who've struggled with substance abuses to conquer one problem, only to develop another. I even went so far as to stop my caffeine and sugar intake as at one point I was convinced that I was becoming quickly addicted to those substances too (and haven't really learned otherwise for myself). I've been sober for 2 years and 9 months, and don't even think about smoking any more. (Do I sounds boring? Probably...)
The quick answer is... that there isn't a quick answer. Just as we have had to go through abstinence and withdrawal from other addictive substances, I think that it's relatively easy for some of us, for whatever the reason, genetic or behavioral or what on earth it is, to develop a habit that we find we can't easily break ourselves of. But I personally wasn't able to wean myself off of any of the substances that became problematic for me; I had to discontinue their use entirely. "Moderation" really doesn't seem to be in my personal vocabulary, unfortunately.
I am wondering, though, whether one of the medications that helped me with my alcohol cravings might also help with weed - acamprosate, brand name Campral. I don't know if it has a clinical application or if there is even anecdotal evidence for it helping, but I found that it helped considerably with my anxieties overall while I was in the early months of sobriety.
That's just off the top of my head, and it might be a poor idea at that - but Campral helped me a lot. I was on it for a year and a half, and it didn't interfere with any of my psych meds.
ClearSkies
Posted by Zyprexa on June 4, 2008, at 23:31:24
In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too!, posted by ClearSkies on May 6, 2008, at 14:57:52
I found that taking the sedating APs, helped me to quit the pot, so that I didn't want it as much any more.
Posted by worriedgf on June 13, 2008, at 3:17:51
In reply to Re: I've got to figure out how to stop too! » TexasChic, posted by octopusprime on August 11, 2004, at 0:51:17
How do you convince your significant other that he should stop smoking weed so that maybe his antidepressants would work better? He smokes to relax and his guitar playing is more creative...We live 5hrs apart and he worries about money, two main reasons for the antidep's but I worry about his weed smoking.
Posted by aiyyiyi on September 13, 2008, at 13:10:05
In reply to Re: Yes, starlight i agree and.., posted by jonh kimble on August 10, 2004, at 0:29:46
>>>>>>>> "Hi. Well I feel like anything I say will be a direct copy of what you said so maybe just an affirmation of finding something better than well whatever drug does the temporary trick. See drugs never made me kill anyone, (well lets start a little lower) or do anything really nuts. What I THINK they did is accustom me to immediate reward. Its hard to see in the murk of so many different drugs. I mean lsd makes me think wonderful things, pot too to a lesser degree.. But the best highs are (no i dont work for the nida) the times I did something, got the same high as drugs, but also the high of the intellectual, the monetary, the social, the whatever that drugs just wont do consistently. I say this without REALLY living it. Just last night picked up some meth. But I KNOW that there are better things. Social relations are great for this. Try going out with friends and laughing at what you just said cause you're so freakin smart, and/ or social acceptance is a great high. Sex! What the hell happened to the greatest dopamine surge that exists? Maybe thats not you're thing, but it should be. Ok this is rather murky and all but its a thought that I think is well worth pursuing. Cause when you get nothing but THROUGH your day, it would be crazy to say that your an idiot for doing drugs. We all need to feel high, sadly drugs are the easiest and most devastating way to get there. Did this make sense? Get high on telling me Im an idiot if it didnt. Id be proud."
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I think you are on to something truly profound here.Why don't they treat any and all addictions in the same fashion as drug addiction? Isn't someone addicted to adrenaline, just as much as your average alcoholic?
People can be addicted to TV, fast food, porn, drugs, protein supplements, shopping, pretty much anything that triggers the pleasurable endorphins in our minds.
Many so-called "healthy" addictions are viewed without the stigma that follows some of the less socially-acceptable diversions.
Posted by myname20098002 on March 6, 2009, at 2:06:10
In reply to Re: How to stop smoking WEED? » Cottonwool, posted by Armourking on May 5, 2008, at 12:32:30
> ok all i know this post is a bit old but it's all i could find,
>
> I too am in the same boat i live in nz so amsterdamm is out of the question.
>
> I've been smoking it everyday for around 7 years with the longest break of about two weeks and it was that long ago i don't remember it,
>
> It has now come to a point where i have to make a descion, i am using smoking to hide my problems, i keep thinking of changing careers as i am not happy (but its the smoking casuing this), my job is fun and challenging and pays very well, it is also hurting my relationship (i'm surprised she's still with me as she doesn't smoke) i smoke myself to sleep so we don't get much bed time together, My motivation and zest for life has gone all i worry about is getting stoned, its now 4am i'm up because i can't sleep because of back pain from eating too much while i have the munchies.
>
> But i love it too much, coming home after a long hard day and having a cone is what i live for
>
> But now it has gone too far. All my friends smoke it too but when we get together all we do is just get smashed and sit watching tv or ps3, what ever happened to going out and doing stuff as a group and not getting smashed? i'll tell you habit now all we know of is to go out and get smashed,
>
> what i'm looking for is some advice on taking the urge away something to kill the time take my mind of what was once as common as taking a pee
>
> cutting back is not an option as i have found with myself if i have it i wont stop until it's gone.I haven't touched it in 23 years. Not even once. Have no desire for it. In fact, it repulses me. Before that I was completely addicted to it as you are now.
I can speak only for myself. But I went to a local Christian church where I lived and was prayed over for it after making a dedication of my life to Christ and simply walked away from smoking and toking and never looked back.
Interestingly, many years later I started the wine tasting and social drinking and eventually found myself addicted to alcohol after a few years of that. I went through a Celebrate Recovery course and about six weeks in they prayed for me and that was the last drink I ever took. I have a lot of sobriety over alcohol and never even think about it anymore.
The last addiction on my plate is self-gratification. I am single and celibate and have been for 23 years. Yet I have the plumbing and desire to be married so it's a struggle. I would like to overcome that last frontier and then I would really be living a pure life.
Anyways, sorry recovery doesn't come in a pill but I have had good results with God and 12 step recovery. Best wishes. It is so important for each of us to overcome.
Posted by Gabriel on September 18, 2009, at 13:23:14
In reply to Re: How to stop smoking WEED? » Cottonwool, posted by Armourking on May 5, 2008, at 12:32:30
Hi Guys i am new to this forum my name is gab i use to smoke a lot but i am in the process of quitting.
Smoking weed s extremely difficult to stop especially if you have been smoking for many years, your body now see the substance in the weed as something that is necessary for it to carry out it normal functions. this is what is called addiction.I Have been to many products and persons who claim they can help but in the end you have to make up your mind that you want to quit. as most products will dampen your desire for the drug however in the final analysis you will have to decide that you want to stop.
Posted by dlpt2a on March 11, 2010, at 18:06:00
In reply to Re: How to stop smoking WEED?, posted by myname20098002 on March 6, 2009, at 2:06:10
You just quit, one morning just don't light it up and keep it that way no matter what... That was the only way that worked for me, tried several times before. It won't work until you are ready, make your mind or wait for a breaking point, in my case was on my early 30s when my girlfriend told me she was pregnant with twins so I realized I had to start or at least try to make some serious money.. so I did, quit everything that could have interfered with my new purpose... weed, coke, acid... you name it . Now the girls are 15 and we are doing just fine. The only thing that I use now is some pharmaceutical amphetamine once in a while when I really need to get something done without mistakes, always in low doses 5 to 10 mil maybe 4 or 5 times a year.
Posted by Deneb on March 13, 2010, at 15:11:59
In reply to Re: How to stop smoking WEED?, posted by dlpt2a on March 11, 2010, at 18:06:00
Hello dlpt2a!
Welcome to Psycho-Babble. Thanks for sharing your success story.
Deneb
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