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Posted by saint james on January 24, 2000, at 5:51:31
Friday I went to the Doc for a pulled muscle in my back and discovered my BP was 170/124 ! Several readings over an hour confurmed this and Clondine was given to me. I go back weds for tests and to sort everything out and I need to know what Antihypertensive
is least likely to cause depression. I kind of would like to be on Inderal, because it calms all my little ADD twitches, but beta blockers are well known for causing depression. Most Antihypertensives make allergies worse and I have big time allergies. Even here in dry New Mexico my nose drips and AHT's tend to make your nose drip. I would like the here from any of Y'all on these meds....how did they effect mood other sideeffects.james
Posted by JIm on January 24, 2000, at 9:23:19
In reply to Antihypertensive that does not cause depression, posted by saint james on January 24, 2000, at 5:51:31
> Friday I went to the Doc for a pulled muscle in my back and discovered my BP was 170/124 ! Several readings over an hour confurmed this and Clondine was given to me. I go back weds for tests and to sort everything out and I need to know what Antihypertensive
> is least likely to cause depression. I kind of would like to be on Inderal, because it calms all my little ADD twitches, but beta blockers are well known for causing depression. Most Antihypertensives make allergies worse and I have big time allergies. Even here in dry New Mexico my nose drips and AHT's tend to make your nose drip. I would like the here from any of Y'all on these meds....how did they effect mood other sideeffects.
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> james
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I have borderline hypertension. I also suffer from depression/anxiety. I took atenol for a short period and it made my depression much worse. It also caused incredible fatigue and nausea. The newer types of medications for high blood pressure are supposed to have less side effects, especially re. depression. I'm trying to keep my b.p. down with exercise and a proper diet. Time will tell if that works.
Posted by Elizabeth on January 24, 2000, at 11:23:47
In reply to Antihypertensive that does not cause depression, posted by saint james on January 24, 2000, at 5:51:31
> Friday I went to the Doc for a pulled muscle in my back and discovered my BP was 170/124 !
Dude! If mine gets that high, I *know* it. (My scalp starts tingling and itching, I feel dizzy and sweaty, etc.) It weirds me out how high it can be for people who have sustained hypertension, without them even realizing it.
There is something that a lot of people get called "white coat hypertension" where their BP is high at the doctor's office because of nervousness or whatever). So you may want to verify this independently.
> Several readings over an hour confurmed this and Clondine was given to me. I go back weds for tests and to sort everything out and I need to know what Antihypertensive
> is least likely to cause depression.I talked to my pdoc at one point about this. He said ACE inhibitors don't cause depression.
My dad has had to take a whole bunch of drugs plus exercise and diet to bring down his BP (after having heart surgery), but he is doing great now. So, while it may take a lot of effort and sacrifice, it is possible to fix it.
> I kind of would like to be on Inderal, because it calms all my little ADD twitches, but beta blockers are well known for causing depression.
Actually a lot of recent studies have shown that this may not be nearly as common as was once thought -- people with cardiovascular disease (those who take beta blockers the most) have a higher frequency of depression than others independent of their medication use, IIRC.
Perhaps you could try Inderal and see how it works for you?
> Most Antihypertensives make allergies worse and I have big time allergies.
Huh, I didn't know that. How does that work, if you know?
Posted by saint james on January 24, 2000, at 12:35:39
In reply to Re: Antihypertensive that does not cause depression, posted by Elizabeth on January 24, 2000, at 11:23:47
> > Friday I went to the Doc for a pulled muscle in my back and discovered my BP was 170/124 !
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> Huh, I didn't know that. How does that work, if you know?
James here....I don't think it was "white coat" because I have not had this problem in the past and they kept me there for 2 hrs doing checks every so often. I had them turn out the lights and I did some medatation but the readings were still high. I am sure after they gave me the first reading (170/124) that it went higher than that ! I started sweating as if on cue. The doc was surprized that I was not having headaches, ect; I have been out of sorts and tired as of late. I have been under lots o stress lately with a new job, I moved in with a new roommate which has turned into a disaster, so I am moving again. Not to mention the total lack of organization in moving, a back alley abortion was better organized.
I do feel that longterm I can control BP w/o meds but for the short term I will need to be on them.
beta blockers and Antihypertensives effect the autonomic NS and allergy (some kinds) and ashama
are controled by autonomic NS. People on Antihypertensives with no history of ashama have developed ashama.j
Posted by jd on January 24, 2000, at 17:58:03
In reply to Re: Antihypertensive that does not cause depression, posted by saint james on January 24, 2000, at 12:35:39
You should definitely get a home BP kit and take your own readings at different times during the day... After being diagnosed as hypertensive, I've found that my readings are consistently at least 20/10 higher at a medical consultation than at home, and this is true of my whole family. (Though I still need medication to keep my home BP at an optimal level.)
As for meds, ACE inhibitors have a good track record of often *improving* mood rather than causing depression. Some people also have a positive mood response to the calcium channel-blocker verapamil. The verdict on beta-blockers still seems very much out: previous data linking them with depression seems less certain these days, and pindolol is even enjoying a vogue as an antidepressant augmentation strategy.
--jd
Posted by Kim on January 25, 2000, at 0:04:44
In reply to Re: Antihypertensive that does not cause depression, posted by jd on January 24, 2000, at 17:58:03
days, and pindolol is even enjoying a vogue as an antidepressant augmentation strategy.
> --jdI've been using Visken (pindolol)as augment to MAOI (Parnate) -- it hasn't seemed to affect my BP at all, but I'm usually 100/60 so probably wouldn't want it any lower.
Kim
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