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Posted by D minor on March 10, 2005, at 23:23:58
I read in the PDR that Seroquel can actually cause hallucinations. Great! How do I know if I'm really psychotic or if the drug is making me hallucinate? My pdoc upped my Seroquel to 600mg on Sumday. On Monday I started hallucinating again.
Maybe I should stop the Seroquel and the Abilify and see what happens?????
dm
Posted by MoparFan91 on March 10, 2005, at 23:54:36
In reply to APs CAUSE Hallucinations?!, posted by D minor on March 10, 2005, at 23:23:58
> I read in the PDR that Seroquel can actually cause hallucinations. Great! How do I know if I'm really psychotic or if the drug is making me hallucinate? My pdoc upped my Seroquel to 600mg on Sumday. On Monday I started hallucinating again.
>
> Maybe I should stop the Seroquel and the Abilify and see what happens?????
>
> dmWhen I took Abilify, I hallucinated at times during the night when trying to sleep. I would hallucinate as I was drifting off to sleep, and I felt a sensation of floating during this. At times, I would hallucinate upon awakening in a state of sleep paralysis.
Posted by HappyGirl on March 11, 2005, at 0:08:38
In reply to APs CAUSE Hallucinations?!, posted by D minor on March 10, 2005, at 23:23:58
Hi:
In reading your two or three different posts, ... you seem to have 'Shizoaffective,' not Bp with psychotic features.
In my knowledge, ... Shizoaffective is more similar M.I. to Shizo. which is said to be 'thought disorder,' while Bp with psychotic features is 'mood disorder,' and psycho/delutional occures ONLY during episodes.If you really have Shizoaffective, not Bp with psycho/delutianal, then the Abilify and Seroquel must be 'out of list' to eliminate from your system. However, it must be VERY hard for you to change other A.P.s. If there are other A.P.s available to your condition, even any older A.P.s along with taking Congetin and other 'counteracting' med., you must get a relief you deserve.
H.G.
Posted by med_empowered on March 11, 2005, at 0:43:10
In reply to Re: APs CAUSE Hallucinations?!, posted by HappyGirl on March 11, 2005, at 0:08:38
ALL antipsychotics have the weird ability to induce psychosis...it seems to be the nature of the beast. Anyway, gradual withdrawal of an antipsychotic might be a good idea to at least try...even the relatively strict guidelines for treating straight up schizophrenia call for withdrawing antipsychotics after a period of treatment when the person involved is experiencing a first or second acute schizophrenic psychosis. Schizoaffective, assuming you have it, is a tricky animal; some understand it as a "moody" form of schizophrenia, some as a kind of "half-way point" between classical schizophrenia and classical bipolar disorder...and still others further divide it into depressive-type (no mania or BP suspected, just depression) or bipolar-type (mania,mixed-episodes,etc. present) schizoaffective. There's very little research available, but what is around tends to indicate that schizoaffectives as a whole have a better prognosis than "true" schizophrenics (in terms of suicide rate, symptoms over long-haul, etc.)...this is ESPECIALLY true of the bipolar-type schizoaffectives. Schizoaffectives in general are often DX'd differently at different points in their lives, which also happens to some with BP I and Schizophrenia; at times symptoms may present a picture more akin to schizophrenia, at others a form of Bipolar, and at others somewhere in the grey area between the two. Anyway, if your doc or a doc is willing to help you and you want to do it, you might want to try a VERY VERY VERY gradual withdrawal of your antipsychotics.
Posted by mike13 on March 11, 2005, at 0:44:28
In reply to Re: APs CAUSE Hallucinations?!, posted by HappyGirl on March 11, 2005, at 0:08:38
Isn't it grant when medication induces the very symptoms it's suppose to treat??
Posted by DanielJ on March 11, 2005, at 7:54:57
In reply to Re: APs CAUSE Hallucinations?!, posted by mike13 on March 11, 2005, at 0:44:28
My son complained that Abilify made him hallucinate. He's been taking Zyprexa for 2 years with no problems except some weight gain.
Abilify works for some patients but need to be taken in the morning.
Posted by HappyGirl on March 11, 2005, at 12:50:12
In reply to Re: APs CAUSE Hallucinations?!, posted by DanielJ on March 11, 2005, at 7:54:57
Hi:
I wholeheartedly agree with you, ... Zyprexa is #1 A.P., amongst A.P. category. However, a Weight-Gain is ALSO #1 problem for most Zyprexa takers, particularly among female ppls. If there is some 'magic' NOT to make a weight gain, this A.P. must be MORE great.Despite this problem,'weight gain,' ... I heard that the Zyprexa is a top-sale list, the next seems the Risperdal that is also widely used for Shizo. and Shizoaffective disorder. The Abilify seems more for Bp I with psychotic features.
One of friends got a REALLY success on the Zyprexa(high-dosage) due to 'shizoaffective,' although he still complains about 'weight issue.'
In my case, just at 5 mg. before the bed does NOT cause any weight, but again I take a weight-suppresant meds. 'two,'... 'Wellbutrin SR 300 mg.' and 'Trazodone 150 mg.' which makes me NOT hungry all the time. Actually, 'NOT hungry' is a problem for me, because I need a good psysical energy for cultivating a big and beautiful flower-garden during the summer, after the work.
H.G.
Posted by Sebastian on March 11, 2005, at 18:31:15
In reply to APs CAUSE Hallucinations?!, posted by D minor on March 10, 2005, at 23:23:58
I've never taken seroquel, but have taken Abilify, and would guess the abilify is causing the holucinations. Its hard to say if its the AP. But I know one drug I took and holucinated all the time, when I stoped it and started anouther the holucinations disapeared. I holucinated on risperdal and abilify. Honestly I don't remember ever holucinating when I was not on a drug, just weird thinking.
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