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Posted by rjlockhart98 on July 8, 2005, at 10:44:44
I am on Symbyax (Zyprexa/prozac) right now, i dont take it nightly but i may soon.
I am afraid, for a long time that i am going crazy, or going 'off'
My imagination goes wild sometimes when i think, i get so afraid i panic. I am afraid my reality will get turned upside down, then im afrain if i think about this all the time it may happen.
Im 18, and never have had this inbalance before. I have had dissociation before, which i thought i was losing my mind, but that has run its course. That was back in October 2004- January 2005.
Anyone on Zyprexa feel 'froze' or sedating. I dont know what to do.
Do MRI'S, PET's, SPECT's, scans show any abnormality it thought patterns, such as schizophrenia or BI.
Please someone tell me something, i am pacing worrying about going crazy right now.
Posted by rjlockhart98 on July 8, 2005, at 11:00:45
In reply to When does Schizophrenia manifest?, posted by rjlockhart98 on July 8, 2005, at 10:44:44
I know the State Evaluator of Texas at The United Methodist Hospital Mental Ward told 4 times that i have no symptoms psychotic symptoms, but severe anxiety showing symptoms of nuerosis by just looking at me.
She asked me :
Any thoughts of people reading your mind : no
Any thoughts of people talking to you directly through the TV : no
Any feelings of being watched : no , well i dont know. 'Please give me a direct awnser' : no.
I told her that i had feelings that i am going insane, i dont want to go crazy. She said this is a severe case of severe anxiety. Well where is this anxiety coming from!..........family genetics, current situations, trauma.
I dont want to really go on a nueroleptic, becuase im afraid it will block some of 'me'. But at the same time, if it make this hell go away, start writing that script now!
Well i just had to post this.
I think i want to go get re-evaluated.
Posted by linkadge on July 8, 2005, at 15:23:33
In reply to When does Schizophrenia manifest?, posted by rjlockhart98 on July 8, 2005, at 10:44:44
Bad anxiety can manifest itself many ways. You may have mood congruent delusions, which means that when you're happy you think nomrmaly but when you get depressed you have altered perceptions etc.
Linkadge
Posted by rjlockhart98 on July 8, 2005, at 15:48:21
In reply to Re: When does Schizophrenia manifest?, posted by linkadge on July 8, 2005, at 15:23:33
mood congruent delusions? ok yes i do have fluctuations. When i wake up sometimes i feel my perception is 'off', i take klonopin during the day and it makes it somethimes go away.
I have really freaky dreams that make me think im crazy! like im deteriating, or i have bizarre conversations with people. I have had VERY vivid dreams to where they are almost real, when i wake up, its like a warp! i sit and am blizt for about 20min.
Ok thanks linkage, i will look that up more on Google to see more insight to it.
Posted by linkadge on July 8, 2005, at 16:56:05
In reply to Re: When does Schizophrenia manifest?, posted by rjlockhart98 on July 8, 2005, at 15:48:21
Well, I guess I was wondering if this seems familiar. This is the way it is with me.
When I am really depressed, I get a lot of strange thoughts
Linkadge
Posted by rjlockhart98 on July 8, 2005, at 19:14:41
In reply to Re: When does Schizophrenia manifest?, posted by linkadge on July 8, 2005, at 16:56:05
Linkage,
thanks for being informative. I dont know alot of this crap. What do your thoughts get like? the babblemail is open if you want.
Do you take any anti-anxiety medications? neuroleptics?
Sorry if im being too into asking, im just trying to get somewhere and see if you know what im talking about.
You dont have to awnser the questions, im trying to just get somewhere to where this is manifesting.
thanks
matt
Posted by Phillipa on July 8, 2005, at 19:33:36
In reply to Re: When does Schizophrenia manifest?, posted by rjlockhart98 on July 8, 2005, at 19:14:41
Matt, Your family situation is causing a lot of this. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by linkadge on July 8, 2005, at 21:51:13
In reply to Re: When does Schizophrenia manifest? » rjlockhart98, posted by Phillipa on July 8, 2005, at 19:33:36
I will give you a few examples of strange thoughts and experience I have had.
A lot of thoughts of brain dammage.
Fear of going near running microwaves.
Fear of radiowaves dammaging my brain cells.
Shapes and objects sometimes distorted.
Sometimes objects appear to be symbolic
everything looks like something else.Cars look like faces, trees look like people, my brain tries to make every object into an human-like figure. Phones, trees, cups, chairs all look
humanlike sometimes.
Somtimes I feel like my hands are my feet, and my feet are my hands (really weird I know).Somteims I feel like I've done somthing wrong, terrably wrong, but I can't put my finger on what it is.
These things come and go with different moods and states of mind.Linkadge
Posted by rjlockhart98 on July 8, 2005, at 22:44:07
In reply to Re: When does Schizophrenia manifest?, posted by linkadge on July 8, 2005, at 21:51:13
well...
Hang in there linkadge, when did this start?
Around early teens, late teens?
That does work up my greatest fear
Posted by linkadge on July 8, 2005, at 23:50:54
In reply to Re: When does Schizophrenia manifest?, posted by rjlockhart98 on July 8, 2005, at 22:44:07
Not sure. It comes and goes, may be stress induced. I think some of it was med induced which was why I have been undertaking an extensive medication detox.
Linkadge
Posted by mike84 on July 10, 2005, at 11:26:55
In reply to When does Schizophrenia manifest?, posted by rjlockhart98 on July 8, 2005, at 10:44:44
According to my grandma, who was a psychiatrist for more then 25 years, schizophrenics never worry about developing schizophrenia. It sounds like you have a severe anxiety disorder which might and sounds like it could be OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder). You are clearly OBSESSed over the fact that you might go crazy. I had the same kind of obsession.
Posted by DanielJ on July 10, 2005, at 20:12:59
In reply to Re: When does Schizophrenia manifest?, posted by mike84 on July 10, 2005, at 11:26:55
My son developed Schizophrenia 2 years ago at age 15. One of the most profound symptoms is "Denial". He would never admit to anything wrong. That doesn't sound like your problem. If I can help further make a post. GBU Dan J
Posted by rjlockhart98 on July 10, 2005, at 21:01:49
In reply to Re: When does Schizophrenia manifest?, posted by DanielJ on July 10, 2005, at 20:12:59
the thing is i worry i am crazy all the time.
This started about september of 2004.
Wierd stuff, like horrible thoughts of going insane.
I get very nuerotic when i discuss it.
I am 18.
This started around 17. I also had mild dissociation from around october 2004- january 2005. Due to a very harsh job i was working.... my dad's firm.
I havent felt the same since.
Posted by rjlockhart98 on July 10, 2005, at 21:38:24
In reply to Re: When does Schizophrenia manifest?, posted by rjlockhart98 on July 10, 2005, at 21:01:49
my symptoms are the following:
An sudden 'aura' of feeling alerted awareness, feeling there is something errie around me.
Eyes get Bigger, increased breathing.
A feeling that i will start seeing things.
Sometimes i will see some object "mildly" swerve, distort, i will really get paranoid i need to get to the doctor.
I pray and belive that God will heal me, i dwell on a verse In 2 Corinthians 10:5 Paul tells us how to deal with our negative thoughts. "Cast down imaginations and every high thing that exalts is exalted against the knowledge of God and bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ."
I pray and pray. I get on prayer lines, the 700 club. I belive God heals illness.
I have been going to pastors and healing crusades for a cure for any mental illness. Still i havent been directly healed, but i belive this is something i must convince my self i am normal.Currently i take
Clonazepam 4mg - reduced soon becuase of Symbyax
Symbyax (Zyprexa 6mg / Prozac 25mg)
Restoril 30mg
Discontinued:
Lorazepam 6mg daily. Did not ease panic or phobic symtoms at all.
I definely am not in denial, I am aware of EVERY symptom that goes on. I think i think about it way to much.
Anyways, sorry about the babble.
Matt
Posted by bimini on July 10, 2005, at 23:17:59
In reply to Re: my symptoms are the following, posted by rjlockhart98 on July 10, 2005, at 21:38:24
I am not in denial about halluzinating and perceptual distortion, but haven't found one Doctor who gets what I am telling them. I got very annoyed how everything I said got twisted to fit some 'syndrome' or another until I had a sizable collection of them.
I am 47 and lost pieces of the visual world after getting hit by an 18-wheeler about three years ago. I started having seizures about 2 months later. I am diagnosed with brain injury, I've had an abnormal brain MRI. Seizures are uncontolled and wild since taking stimulants.I know real from unlikely, size is distorted, movement is totally weird, the world gets dizzy I can't figure out direction of things. I could not read because letters looked foreign and still have trouble with writing what someone dictates. I mix up numbers and letters. I had over one year of visual therapy to learn to fuse multiple vision problems.
I still have excessive object permanence, so I see objects later in a different place where they are not. Flashing rhythmic and brightly illuminating everything, then at other times total washout so everything looks milky about 2 -3 times a year lasting 20-30 minutes or more.So far Docs are still thinking I see monsters. My illusions are not textbook, and, I might add, even managable, sometimes amusing.
I won't cut the grass I saw inside my fridge, I'll close the door and smile, next time I open the door the grass will be gone. I just wish the same would happen to my laundy pile...
bimini
Posted by FredPotter on July 10, 2005, at 23:37:49
In reply to When does Schizophrenia manifest?, posted by rjlockhart98 on July 8, 2005, at 10:44:44
Nothing you've said sounds like schizophrenia. I went through severe anxiety and madness phobia back in the 60s. All I needed was a medical person to assure me I wasn't mad, although I guess I'd have found something else to focus my loose cannon anxiety on. They always used to say if you're worried that you're mad then you're not. Mad people deny it . . . sort of thing
Posted by Phillipa on July 11, 2005, at 18:21:05
In reply to Re: my symptoms are the following, posted by bimini on July 10, 2005, at 23:17:59
Bimini, Gosh you've been through a lot. I'm so sorry. You really do have problems. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by bimini on July 12, 2005, at 12:06:23
In reply to Re: my symptoms are the following » bimini, posted by Phillipa on July 11, 2005, at 18:21:05
I did question my sanity after not getting explanations for what I am experiencing. Now I think the experts are nimnuts for not explaining what they obviously knew.
I found some answers going through vision therapy and a lot of help. The referral was discouraged because behavioral vision specialists do not have the Med title after their PhD's, insurance doesn't consider VT effective.
The insurance prefers a good psychosis, LOL.
bimini
Posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2005, at 17:42:07
In reply to TY » Phillipa, posted by bimini on July 12, 2005, at 12:06:23
Bimini, I guess you already know about support groups for brain injury. I had a friend who attended them. They helped because she can't believe she will never work again because of her traumatic brain injury and back injuries after 2 motor vehicle accidents. She was very depressed and slept all day due to pain meds. Her marriage broke up but I guess she perservered. Last time my husband and i were in that town we left a note on her door. She left a message on our answering machine that she was getting married in May. And that she had been at a friend's after more surgery. I never called her back. I was afraid to hear who she had married. Long story. But I still say you have been through so much. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Declan on July 13, 2005, at 17:02:11
In reply to Re: TY » bimini, posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2005, at 17:42:07
Hi Bimini
My nephew was hit by a truck and left for dead on the side of the road when 12 or so. He has some sort of brain damage and the expected developmental disability. He insists on talking to his doctors and social workers about the Lord and being under demonic attack. In Australia, more than the US I guess, this is considered really weird. So he is treated as psychotic. But he's not psychotic/schizophrenic. I don't think the drugs they give him (amisulpride at the moment) help much.
Declan
Posted by bimini on July 13, 2005, at 19:16:35
In reply to Re: TY » bimini, posted by Phillipa on July 12, 2005, at 17:42:07
Phillipa, yes I do have support groups, they have been a life saver. You are afraid whom your friend marries? Oh-Oh, well, dance at their wedding anyway.
I wish there was an I/O port on me to transfer my interpretation of events sometimes, talking is tedious, writing is better. I wish every child were required to learn sign language in elementary school. AND I wish it was an international system, OK, I can dream on.
Declan, sorry to hear about your nephew. Funny contrast of the tipsey weirdness scale in the US, were politicians 'insist on talking about the Lord' and mass manipulate the non-psychotic.
I don't talk about what I see, my family has an inkling, but never really understand what it is like. Dizzy can be understood, but object dizzines because of distortion is too warped.
bimini
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