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Posted by zarathustra on December 11, 2009, at 1:56:18
I know, odd question. Normally when not taking Dexedrine I only need to apply deodorant about every 2-3 days, I just dont seem to smell. However, within about 2 hours of taking Dexedrine I stink! It is a very rich smell, like I have just crossed the Sahara. I have to carry extra-strength deodorant and apply at least twice a day. Its not an issue, I am just curious if anyone has insight into it.
Actually, maybe its a good thing! Being chronically single, maybe I am emitting ultra-potent pheromones to the ladies! Then again, my social anxiety disorder would likely negate interaction with any women drawn to my stench :)
Posted by tensor on December 11, 2009, at 8:46:18
In reply to Anyone else get pungent BO from Dexedrine??, posted by zarathustra on December 11, 2009, at 1:56:18
> Actually, maybe its a good thing! Being chronically single, maybe I am emitting ultra-potent pheromones to the ladies!
That's the spirit! :-)
It's natural to sweat more when taking noradrenergic drugs. And yes, some of them can give an odour in sweat and/or in urine.
/tensor
Posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2009, at 10:37:56
In reply to Re: Anyone else get pungent BO from Dexedrine?? » zarathustra, posted by tensor on December 11, 2009, at 8:46:18
Why not use the deodorant daily then? Might help? Phillipa
Posted by tensor on December 11, 2009, at 10:43:03
In reply to Re: Anyone else get pungent BO from Dexedrine??, posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2009, at 10:37:56
> Why not use the deodorant daily then? Might help? Phillipa
Deductive logic :-)
Posted by zarathustra on December 11, 2009, at 14:53:50
In reply to Re: Anyone else get pungent BO from Dexedrine?? » Phillipa, posted by tensor on December 11, 2009, at 10:43:03
> > Why not use the deodorant daily then? Might help? Phillipa
Thanks for your Nobel prize solution Phillipa :)
I am of course using it daily! I was simply wondering why it happens.
Sorry for the sarcasm, but humour is the cheapest medication on the planet :)
Posted by Phillipa on December 11, 2009, at 20:10:57
In reply to Re: Anyone else get pungent BO from Dexedrine??, posted by zarathustra on December 11, 2009, at 14:53:50
Indeed it is!!!!! Keep it coming!!!!! Phillipa so no stinky you now?
Posted by bleauberry on December 11, 2009, at 21:49:26
In reply to Anyone else get pungent BO from Dexedrine??, posted by zarathustra on December 11, 2009, at 1:56:18
I also get a very pungeant odor with noradrenergic anything, including dexedrine. It is quite a unique odor, very offensive, not like any other kind of BO I've ever smelled. Putrid. Sometimes it is still there even after a shower.
This can be a sign of candida or bacterial infection within. It is their accelerated waste from NE stimulation causing the odor, my best guess. It is kind of riddle. I don't know why or how, but they seem to thrive on NE.
When I was on Doxycyline for a couple weeks for a boil, I was amazed to see that odor completely disappeared, even though I was still taking the med that caused it. About a week after I was done with Doxycyline, the smell came back. Certain antibacterial herbs have also made the smell go away. I don't fully understand the connection between NE and infections, and I seriously doubt anybody does. All I know is that antibacterial agents make it go away.
I can stop the smell by either avoiding anything that is pro-adrenergic or by taking antimicrobial agents.
At another forum it was theorized that this smell is from increased sweat gland activity, which obviously a stimulant like dexedrine would do, along with the increased bacterial or fungal activity in those glands, since they are thriving on the increased sweat. So either remove the sweat, or remove the microbes. Both methods work for me.
It was so discusting at one time that I wiped some tea tree oil under my arm where it smelled the worst. Tea tree oil is a powerful antimicrobial. Tea tree oil itself smells not good. After a couple hours I had to go shower off the tea tree oil because I couldn't handle its smell. Totally amazed, the pungeant odor was gone and stayed gone for a week.
My LLMD said it is a frequent condition with most of his Lyme patients.
Posted by zarathustra on December 11, 2009, at 22:45:48
In reply to Re: Anyone else get pungent BO from Dexedrine??, posted by bleauberry on December 11, 2009, at 21:49:26
> I also get a very pungeant odor with noradrenergic anything, including dexedrine. It is quite a unique odor, very offensive, not like any other kind of BO I've ever smelled. Putrid. Sometimes it is still there even after a shower.
>
> This can be a sign of candida or bacterial infection within. It is their accelerated waste from NE stimulation causing the odor, my best guess. It is kind of riddle. I don't know why or how, but they seem to thrive on NE.
>
> When I was on Doxycyline for a couple weeks for a boil, I was amazed to see that odor completely disappeared, even though I was still taking the med that caused it. About a week after I was done with Doxycyline, the smell came back. Certain antibacterial herbs have also made the smell go away. I don't fully understand the connection between NE and infections, and I seriously doubt anybody does. All I know is that antibacterial agents make it go away.
>
> I can stop the smell by either avoiding anything that is pro-adrenergic or by taking antimicrobial agents.
>
> At another forum it was theorized that this smell is from increased sweat gland activity, which obviously a stimulant like dexedrine would do, along with the increased bacterial or fungal activity in those glands, since they are thriving on the increased sweat. So either remove the sweat, or remove the microbes. Both methods work for me.
>
> It was so discusting at one time that I wiped some tea tree oil under my arm where it smelled the worst. Tea tree oil is a powerful antimicrobial. Tea tree oil itself smells not good. After a couple hours I had to go shower off the tea tree oil because I couldn't handle its smell. Totally amazed, the pungeant odor was gone and stayed gone for a week.
>
> My LLMD said it is a frequent condition with most of his Lyme patients."pungeant" does not do it justice! However Thank-you Bleauberry, Its nice to know I do not suffer alone :) At one point I thought I was developing Autism or something! :) the smell is so unique and rancid that I found myself actually enjoying it, I would go out of my way to air my "pits" and let my nostrils re-live this new aroma (in private of course!).
A little suprised at my sense of humour the last 2 days. I restarted Dexedrine after a month off and it seems to have turned me into a bit of a comedian. Its a nice feeling, and educational for me also: people respond so well to humor, and this really has positive effects on my social anxiety disorder. Anyways I leave you with a stupid BO joke I just found (some may be offended,and I hope I dont get banned, but oh well its funny)........A blonde walks into a drugstore and asks the pharmacist for some bottom deodorant. The pharmacist, a little bemused, explains to the woman that they don't sell anything called bottom deodorant, and never have. Unfazed, the blonde assures him that she has been buying the stuff from this store on a regular basis, and would like some more. "I'm sorry," says the pharmacist, "we don't have any."
"But I always get it here," says the blonde.
"Do you have the container it comes in?"
"Yes!" says the blonde, "I will go and get it."
She returns with the container and hands it to the pharmacist, who looks at it and says to her, "This is just a normal stick of underarm deodorant."
The annoyed blonde snatches the container back and reads out loud from the container: "To apply, push up bottom."
Posted by floatingbridge on December 12, 2009, at 4:19:00
In reply to Re: Anyone else get pungent BO from Dexedrine?? » bleauberry, posted by zarathustra on December 11, 2009, at 22:45:48
Posted by Phillipa on December 12, 2009, at 19:47:01
In reply to Re: Anyone else get pungent BO from Dexedrine?? » bleauberry, posted by zarathustra on December 11, 2009, at 22:45:48
Oh that's great very funny so positives come out of stinky!!!!
Posted by utopizen on December 17, 2009, at 21:20:31
In reply to Re: Anyone else get pungent BO from Dexedrine?? » bleauberry, posted by zarathustra on December 11, 2009, at 22:45:48
you're prolly not going to follow this advice, but sometimes the most simple advice is best considered...
I use to, as a result of stimulants (especially after all-nighters, when my body would not have sleep to remove toxins) finally resort to Botox injections every 6 months or so. After finding Drysol (20% AlCl) seem to work quite well, provided I did not pull an all-nighter.
Anyhow, I no longer even need AlCl.
Here's why:
Anxiety and perspiration are common symptoms of Dexedrine toxicity. That is, your dose is a tad more than the "lowest effective dose."
This means, you're likely on too much for your own body to handle (don't bother worrying what others handle, or your doc thinks you can), and you need to lower not only the Dexedrine, but your expectation for what any drug is suppose to do for you.
Here's the deal:
You're probably on a dose higher than you need to genuinely treat your AD/HD. Maybe it's just a single pill too much, who knows. But odds are, you ain't sweatin' from 5mg twice/day.
And, you're probably thinking your present dose of Dexedrine is a healthy means to keep you focused on your work beyond what is reasonable.
Well, your mind spaces out for better reasons than you likely give it credit for. It also will make you depressed if you push it too hard or bore it to death by not doing things you enjoy enough. And you'll wind up super sleepy and worrying about treating that next.
So, listen to your body. It's sweating. It might even be anxious, too. It's telling you it's too hot. That's not healthy. Can Drysol likely treat it? Yeah. Can Botox elliminate it for 4-6 months? Yeah.
But you need to ask yourself, why not re-think whether you are asking unrealistic expectations from Dexedrine. Maybe you just need to do something that doesn't seem to require a high dose of a stimulant to function at. Because these are symptoms of taking too much. And that's often a symptom of sensing you need to do something that in reality bores you even at reasonable doses.
keep in mind your body's responses to drugs are not just side-effects they're often like a very wise friend trying to give you a hint. Listen to your friend. Trust me, I didn't listen, and it doesn't work out well.
But consider Tom's of Maine's unscented antipersperiant. I dismissed it myself, thinking other stuff would be more effective because it would be more toxic. (Uh huh). Well, thing is, it's unscented. So you can apply more than you can with other stuff.
I like to mix it with a dab or two of the Lemongrass scent, just for good measure. After a couple of days, it builds up, and you won't sweat.
I've never seen anything more effective, and I've tried 'em all.
Posted by zarathustra on December 17, 2009, at 22:15:12
In reply to Re: Anyone else get pungent BO from Dexedrine??, posted by utopizen on December 17, 2009, at 21:20:31
utopizen, thank you. You have quite accurately described my patterns of use, and provided a fair bit of food for thought. When I think about it, the BO does indeed occur after all nighters, no food, or sleep. Amazing you were able to deduce so much from my post, are you a doctor?
> you're prolly not going to follow this advice, but sometimes the most simple advice is best considered...
>
> I use to, as a result of stimulants (especially after all-nighters, when my body would not have sleep to remove toxins) finally resort to Botox injections every 6 months or so. After finding Drysol (20% AlCl) seem to work quite well, provided I did not pull an all-nighter.
>
> Anyhow, I no longer even need AlCl.
>
> Here's why:
>
> Anxiety and perspiration are common symptoms of Dexedrine toxicity. That is, your dose is a tad more than the "lowest effective dose."
>
> This means, you're likely on too much for your own body to handle (don't bother worrying what others handle, or your doc thinks you can), and you need to lower not only the Dexedrine, but your expectation for what any drug is suppose to do for you.
>
> Here's the deal:
>
> You're probably on a dose higher than you need to genuinely treat your AD/HD. Maybe it's just a single pill too much, who knows. But odds are, you ain't sweatin' from 5mg twice/day.
>
> And, you're probably thinking your present dose of Dexedrine is a healthy means to keep you focused on your work beyond what is reasonable.
>
> Well, your mind spaces out for better reasons than you likely give it credit for. It also will make you depressed if you push it too hard or bore it to death by not doing things you enjoy enough. And you'll wind up super sleepy and worrying about treating that next.
>
> So, listen to your body. It's sweating. It might even be anxious, too. It's telling you it's too hot. That's not healthy. Can Drysol likely treat it? Yeah. Can Botox elliminate it for 4-6 months? Yeah.
>
> But you need to ask yourself, why not re-think whether you are asking unrealistic expectations from Dexedrine. Maybe you just need to do something that doesn't seem to require a high dose of a stimulant to function at. Because these are symptoms of taking too much. And that's often a symptom of sensing you need to do something that in reality bores you even at reasonable doses.
>
> keep in mind your body's responses to drugs are not just side-effects they're often like a very wise friend trying to give you a hint. Listen to your friend. Trust me, I didn't listen, and it doesn't work out well.
>
> But consider Tom's of Maine's unscented antipersperiant. I dismissed it myself, thinking other stuff would be more effective because it would be more toxic. (Uh huh). Well, thing is, it's unscented. So you can apply more than you can with other stuff.
>
> I like to mix it with a dab or two of the Lemongrass scent, just for good measure. After a couple of days, it builds up, and you won't sweat.
>
> I've never seen anything more effective, and I've tried 'em all.
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