Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1112033

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ADs + HEAL9 = less depression, anxiety?

Posted by Hugh on September 14, 2020, at 13:41:07

Italian researchers recommend studying a combination of antidepressants and the probiotic Lactobacillus plantarum (L. plantarum) HEAL9 as a treatment for depression. In a recently published study, it was found that a combination of SAMe and L. plantarum HEAL9 brought about "significant reductions in depression, anxiety, and cognitive symptoms as early as 2 weeks following treatment initiation." The Italians believe that a combination of antidepressants and HEAL9 might have the same effect.

Here's the Medscape article:

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20190907/msgs/1112032.html

Lactobacillus plantarum HEAL9 is one of two probiotic strains in this supplement:

https://www.hyperbiotics.com/products/immune-defense

 

Re: ADs + HEAL9 = less depression, anxiety?

Posted by Lamdage22 on September 17, 2020, at 2:08:57

In reply to ADs + HEAL9 = less depression, anxiety?, posted by Hugh on September 14, 2020, at 13:41:07

I would have liked the study without SAMe. SAMe can be really nasty for certain people. I heard that probiotics can actually cause a bacteria imbalance. Maybe prebiotics are better?

 

Re: ADs + HEAL9 = less depression, anxiety? Lamdage22

Posted by Hugh on September 18, 2020, at 11:09:47

In reply to Re: ADs + HEAL9 = less depression, anxiety?, posted by Lamdage22 on September 17, 2020, at 2:08:57

It's a fascinating subject because the human microbiome is so remarkably complex and so little is known about it. I've tried lots of probiotics and prebiotics. Lately, to reduce harmful bacteria, I've been eating cucumber and drinking dill weed tea every day, since both of these are antibacterial.

https://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/regulatory/cucumbers-may-have-antibacterial-properties-0

 

Re: ADs + HEAL9 = less depression, anxiety?

Posted by Lamdage22 on September 18, 2020, at 11:38:25

In reply to Re: ADs + HEAL9 = less depression, anxiety? Lamdage22, posted by Hugh on September 18, 2020, at 11:09:47

If there was no infection risk, I would get a happy and healthy persons fecal transplant in a heartbeat.

 

Re: ADs + HEAL9 = less depression, anxiety?

Posted by Lamdage22 on September 18, 2020, at 12:45:29

In reply to Re: ADs + HEAL9 = less depression, anxiety?, posted by Lamdage22 on September 18, 2020, at 11:38:25

But no one can make any money with stuff like that. The mental health industry is not altruistic at all.

 

Neuraxpharm 'Neuraxbiotic' L. Plantarum PS128

Posted by Lamdage22 on October 20, 2020, at 8:10:20

In reply to Re: ADs + HEAL9 = less depression, anxiety?, posted by Lamdage22 on September 18, 2020, at 12:45:29

Hey guys, hope y'all are having a good one (as possible).
I am contemplating this. How natural is it? Does that bacterium exist in nature? I would greatly appreciate any insight. Just wonder how safe it is as always. Once burnt...

 

Study of the above (ASD)

Posted by Lamdage22 on October 20, 2020, at 8:15:21

In reply to Neuraxpharm 'Neuraxbiotic' L. Plantarum PS128, posted by Lamdage22 on October 20, 2020, at 8:10:20

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6521002/


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