Posted by michael on January 16, 2000, at 22:59:43
In reply to Re: ecstacy and ssri's-Here's the poop, posted by nowrist on January 16, 2000, at 12:44:23
> > Not to sound pompus, but here's the poop Greg (or at least my two cents worth), morlality aside...
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> > I try to avoid ecstacy when I'm not medicated b/c the euphoric effects have gone away and it brings me more anxiety than pleasure. Plus, I feel my brain chemistry is too seretonically (a word?) fragile for the drug and usually feel despair later...(this sucks because there's a barier between friends now)
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> > Previously on Prozac and now or Serzone, X is a waste of money and doesn't work (bad side), but nor do I have to deal with aftereffects (good side). This is consistent with what other patients and doctors have told me. Nothing really to fear, only money to waste.
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> > One extra observation: taking ketamine (K) after a failed ecstacy (due to ADs) can trigger some of the X effects, I've found to be true for myself. not worth the money, however.
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> > For those who will respond I have been immoral or have advocated illicit drugs -- that argument has been had in the threads above. Greg is surely an adult and probably knows the club scene well enough to make his own decision. I'm just speaking up as someone whose been there.
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> i have been on ssri drugs for about about 5 years, and have several times tried x since then. i can tell you it hardly had any affect on me at all. the first time i hadn't heard anything about ssri drugs rendering x inert or ineffective, but having since tried it two more times, i am inclined to believe it true. i'd done x maybe ten times before taking ssri's, and while sometimes i'd taken 'bad x' i still felt something. my advice, all helath concerns aside, is to save your money and don't buy x.You might want to check out maps.org (multidisciplinary assoc for psychedelic studies)
You can run querries on "serotonin receptors", etc. It can get a little technical, but there are articles & rsch prjoects that go into which receptors seem to be more significant for psychedelic experiences (5-HT 2, i think?), and which receptors are predominantly involved with which antidepressants...
I haven't done a lot of rsch, but I think it may make a difference which antidepressant you're using.... & which other "meds" (x, psilocyban, lsd, etc)
It's interesting to get a little insight on how it all works, if nothing else.
good luck.
poster:michael
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