Posted by Greg on August 20, 2000, at 10:51:21
In reply to Re: Counterpoint...no board babysitters., posted by JohnL on August 20, 2000, at 4:34:49
> > Dr.Bob,
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> > I'm going to allow my current manic condition to run wild here.
> ...This is a good safe place to do that.I agree that it's a good place, but not necessarily safe.
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> > You may moderate this site, but it belongs to the rest of us as much as it does you.
> ....Wrongo. It doesn't 'belong' to anyone else at all. It's Dr Bob's completely. It's cool we can use it, but the fact is, he's the sole creator and owner of the stage on which the rest of us are kindly allowed to play.If not for us, it doesn't exist. WE contribute the info and support here. I think we'll just have to agree to disagree here.
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> >How many more valuable contributors have to be pushed away before you start getting pro-active about these constant disruptions?
> ....I've been a regular here for more than two years and haven't seen any 'valuable' contributors pushed away. The valuable ones don't tend to migrate.Wrong my friend! I am in touch offline with many people who have been here for a long time who have chosen to either leave altogether, or will post only when they need specific info or assistance. They are valuable contributors. Because they choose not be involved with these disruptions any longer, doesn't make them any less so. This site is very fortunate to have had you for the last two years.
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> >What about the new people who come here looking for help and support and are frightened away?
> ....One or two offensive threads in the entire page is going to 'scare' someone off? Even the worst there is at this board is tame compared to real life in the real world.I know some of the new people who have been run off from PB. And yes, when a person suffers from depression, anxiety and mania, all it takes is a few posts to make them leave. They are looking for a SAFE place. Think about it.
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> >You have options to make this stop and you know it.
> ....I'm fine with babysitters staying out of it. If someone doesn't like something, it's real easy to deal with. Go to the upper right hand corner of the computer screen and click on the X. Poof, all gone. Wish I could do that in real life.I don't recall ever saying anything about babysitters. I'm looking for some control to be exerted here. From time to time someone is going to make a comment someone else doesn't like, I've been around many years and I know that's part of life. But when someone continues to offend others continously over many months, then it's time to act. The use of the "X" in the upper right-hand is good for some, but I'd rather defend my right to have a safe to talk about my problems and ask questions. I grew up in the sixties and learned what fights are worth fighting and which ones aren't, I choose to fight this fight.
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> > I know you're stuck between a rock and a hard place here and I respect you, I really do.
> ....I doubt seriously anyone is stuck. The board's moderator deserves respect as a medical professional, not a babysitter.If you don't think that Dr.Bob has a tough chore on his hands here, then you haven't been paying attention.
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> >But it's time for you to start defending the people who REALLY care about PB and rid us of those who don't. Let's get back to business, OK?
> ....I don't think anyone ever got away from 'business'. Take a look at the rest of the page...PB flourishes as if nothing ever happened. And in reality, nothing really did happen. A mere pebble on the beach.I admire your ability to look away from what is really happening here, I wish I could do the same and I've tried. But I can't. I've had too many people here literally save my life with their input and support. And I will not turn my back on doing what I feel is right.
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> > If something isn't done soon, I will join the others who have had enough and leave Babble for good.
> ....My my, tisk tisk. It's nice you're here, and some of us would hate to see you go. But if you need an environment with a babysitter and thorough sterilization, and if you don't have the self control to click on the X when you see something that bothers you, maybe this was never an appropriate venue for you anyway. Try this one instead...www.healthboards.com. Their boards are fully moderated with a fulltime babysitter. I didn't like that, but you might.I won't dignify this comment other than to say it is one of the most condesending things I've ever had said to me in my life.
John, I respect your opinion, I really do. I just don't agree with it. I thank you for responding to my post. I always need to get differing viewpoints to my opinions to keep me honest. I have rec'd a great deal of support to this post, and I'm sure I will receive some opposite views as well, such as yours. Some will see my post as a personal attack on Dr.Bob, and while that was not the intent, I'll have to live with my decision to do this. I have 2 choices, fight for what is right or turn my back and walk away, for now I choose to fight. Maybe soon I'll have to walk away. But either way, I'll feel like I did the right thing, and to me that is important.
Greg
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> >Please, we don't need more provocation here.
> ....If someone feels provocated, click on the X and go to a different thread.
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> >Everyone should be allowed to share as much or as little as, and when, he or she feels comfortable.
> ....As far as I can remember, they always have been.
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> ....Please keep in mind, this board is populated by a wide array of personalities, many of which are under the influence of out-of-control mental conditions or excruciating medications. People who post offensive threads are obviously not in their right minds. Offfensive or not, I don't think anyone should be shutout or babysat. If a post looks offensive as you start reading it, don't finish reading it. Click the X and go to another thread. For every bad thread, there are at least a couple dozen other real good ones to choose from. Why anyone even gives a bad thread a moment's notice is beyond my comprehension. Why focus on a bit of compost but not the flowers all around?
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poster:Greg
thread:43275
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20000811/msgs/43387.html