Posted by Katz on January 24, 2001, at 9:55:45
In reply to Re: Reboxetine/Ritalin - what about ADHD? » Katz, posted by Leonardo on January 24, 2001, at 6:20:41
> Hi Leonardo,
Good luck finding that internet source for Ritilin. I have spent days upon days searching and have found it impossible. Aside from that, here in the US it's a criminal offense to import class 2 drugs. That being said, had I found an internet source, my desperation would have driven me to take a chance and place an order.
I am only into my fourth week on reboxetine and I too am finding it's action variable. Most days I do feel energized but occassionally I do not. There has also been an occassional fleeting hour or two when I have felt overwhelmingly depressed but that quickly passes. Like you, I do not think this drug is going to work out for me over the long term. It certainly has not helped my social phobia thus far and for me, that is worse than my depression which is often absent or very mild. Question: What time of day did you take your rebox? Up until today, I was taking mine at 8 PM and 4 AM because initally the rebox caused a sedating effect. I would awake energized. Now, it appears that the sedating effect has worn off, I didn't sleep at all last night. I will have to start taking the meds during the day. I'm still trying to figure out when the best times would be.
I have been on Zoloft (no help) and Effexor which I considered to be a drug from hell. It actually worsened my depression, caused considerable weight gain and sleepiness. Withdrawal was the pits. All kinds of stomach problems. Keep in mind that these are just my experience and should not discourage you. One of them just may be your miracle pill. We are all so very different in our responses to these meds.
As for the stimulants, they too are not all created equal. Dexedrine did absolutely nothing for me. I could take 30mg turn over and fall back asleep. I have never tried Adderall. Some like it better and some like it less than Ritilin. Again, it's an individual thing.
I have to laugh at your trying pass yourself off as ADHD. "Been there, done that"! Only I tried to say I was ADD since nobody would every believe I was hyper! I applied to an ADD/ADHD clinic and was quickly referred back to the Depression Clinic. I guess they saw right through me! It's worth a try however! I'm just not a good lyer and really couldn't pull it off. I hope you have better luck. Still, why bother? Your pdoc seems willing to prescribe the stims in the event the Zoloft and effexor don't work out!
Wishing you luck on your journey to happiness,
Katz
> Hi Katz!
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> I can identify with a lot of what you say and have pretty much the same problems now. I am trying to find an internet source of Ritalin/Dexedrine/Adderall etc (see my post above), though I gather that posessing this stuff without a prescription is illegal in the US (I am in the UK).
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> I have a lot of experience with reboxetine. I found it very variable and unpredictable when taken by itself, although it does have a very targetted noradrenaline action. I did at times find it energising, sometimes making me feel too wired. I also had spells of severe irritability/intolerance which conquered any social phobia, I would argue with shop assistants with the merest provocation and quite enjoy it! But I had a big row with my wife... I too had spells of feeling completely well, but couldn't hang on to it. I found that high doses of reboxetine were counterproductive for me, 4 or even 2 mg a day over a period were better. I got best results overall when combining with a small dose of Paxil, it helps with anxiety/social phobia, and the 2 cancel out each others side effects more or less.
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> However, I have given up on that conbo after 9 months, as I still have depression, lethargy, sometimes leading to not wanting to go out and face the world. I have come to think that anhedonia and social phobia, at least in my case, are just consequences of the depression, not really a specific condition on their own. So the answer is to fix the cause of the depression.
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> I also have tried quite a few ADs with poor results. I have tried Ritain 10mg on a few occasions (borrowed from my son...) and got a good response. I too feel that conventional ADs are unlikely to sort me out, but Ritalin holds promise. My Pdoc now wants me to try Zoloft and Effexor before he will consider stimulants.
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> In the UK you are not allowed to be prescribed stimulants for depression, but you (possibly) can get them for ADHD. So I am working towards getting a diagnosis of ADHD as soon as possible! ADHD can cause depression and all the other stuff anyway. If you have any symptoms of problems with concentrationa and attention span which you think were there before you got depressed, and don't go away with ADs, you might be able to get an ADHD diagnosis.
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> If Ritalin works for you, you probably wouldn't need to combine it with reboxetine, as they have a lot of similarities in their actions.
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> Good luck!
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> Leonardo
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