Posted by paulk on June 1, 2001, at 21:54:03
In reply to Re: MAOI diets » paulk, posted by Elizabeth on May 29, 2001, at 20:20:04
> > There is an FAQ about MAOI diet restrictions centring on restricting tyramine, an amino acid.
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> Can I ask where this is (URL)? I wrote a FAQ about MAOIs several years ago, when I was an undergraduate. Unfortunately, when I lost my computer account at my undergrad college, my web page went away. It would be neat if someone had preserved my FAQ, although it's out of date and would need some revisions!
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> (BTW, there are also a couple of foods -- obscure things like fava bean pods and banana peels -- that contain serotonin or dopamine, which should also be avoided when taking MAOIs.)
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> > There is an FAQ about MAOI diet restrictions centring on restricting tyramine, an amino acid.
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> Can I ask where this is (URL)? I wrote a FAQ about MAOIs several years ago, when I was an undergraduate. Unfortunately, when I lost my computer account at my undergrad college, my web page went away. It would be neat if someone had preserved my FAQ, although it's out of date and would need some revisions!
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> (BTW, there are also a couple of foods -- obscure things like fava bean pods and banana peels -- that contain serotonin or dopamine, which should also be avoided when taking MAOIs.)
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> > For example, according to the book “Food Values of portions commonly used” (by Pennington Harper & Row), 3.5oz of ground lean beef contains 747mg of tyramine while 1 oz of cheddar cheese contains 341mg of tyramine.
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> Huh. That's sort of weird. Books about nutrition tend not to list tyramine content, because tyramine isn't an amino acid (it's a metabolite of tyrosine, which is an amino acid). Is it possible that the amounts listed in the book were tyrosine contents, not tyramine?You are correct - I was still having IQ problems when I wrote that - I'm still finding out just how many things I screwed up with the memory problem I associated with Effexor.
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> There are enzymes called peptidases in the stomach that break down proteins into their constituent amino acids. So it's irrelevant whether or not there are "free" amino acids in a particular food.
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see
http://www.dr-bob.org/tips/maoi.htmlBut it is perhaps the free tyramine - that would be bacterially digested from tyrosine that is to be avoided? My questions is why would I crave foods with tyramine?
In all your reading have you seen anything about posterior sub capsular cataract (like those that diabetics or users of steroids get) related to any of this? Coicidently with my memory going with Effexor I just got that diagnose. I am off Effexor now and memory is much better. Could be just a coincidence – but it could also be related > perhaps I have something brewing that is causing the cataracts and the new problems (after many years) with Effexor.
Paulk
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