Posted by shelliR on August 1, 2001, at 9:58:41
In reply to Re: SalArmy4Me, posted by JohnL on July 31, 2001, at 5:22:12
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> There are other drugs that seem to shine above the rest in the REAL world. Some of the clinical research supports them, some of it doesnt't, so clinical research has to be taken with a grain of salt. I instead prefer to focus on what actually really works in the real world. SalArmy will get to that point as well. I too was once a research junky like SalArmy, and people had patience with me. After a while though it became obvious through my own trial and error with the drugs I was researching that research gives no indication whatsoever of might be helpful to someone. It's basically useless in the real world.
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> With that in mind, and in an effort to keep this thread on track as a medication issue, it is my opinion that the entire psychiatric world would be much more successful if the threw all the clinical research in the trash but instead limited treating depression patients to just these drugs:
> Prozac
> Effexor
> Zyprexa
> Risperdal
> Ritalin
> Adderall
> Adrafinil
> Amisulpride
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> Forget all the others until combinations of any two or three of the above have been exhausted. I guarantee that approach will bring wellness to the patient much faster than trying to go by research. Like I said, I go with what works in the REAL world, and the above drugs have proven their worth as gold in that regard.
> JohnFirst of all John, you have left out some very important drug categories, including MAOIs, tricyclics, and mood stabilizers, all which work for thousands of depressed people. Lamictal particularly is showing pretty amazing results in combination with ADs. I truely am glad that these medications have helped you, and I would assume that they have also helped many others. But get real here: what is your experience of the REAL world--this board? I have seen as many failures with the drugs that you mentioned as successes on this board. Personality I am not able to tolerate APs, effexor, or stimulents (except for concerta), so that leaves me quite bare on your list. And yes, I have tried prozac with concerta with negative results. So, what do you owe me, under you guarantee? ("I guarantee this approach...".). Your lack of data astounds me more than your lack of credentials.
Again, I am not saying that any of the drugs you list cannot add up to a successful outcome for some people, but come down to earth. You truly have no stats to stand on.
Shelli
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