Posted by JGalt on December 8, 2001, at 0:03:28
In reply to GHB: is it, finally, a simply street drug?, posted by Mauro on December 7, 2001, at 18:51:06
Hehe, that's a real can of worms right there. You'll get many people on either side of the line.
As for whether or not it is a medicine, currently, there is a drug coming out called Xyrem which is used to treat nacrolepsy, and supposedly is nothing more than ghb or a close analogue. Likely it'll be another modafinil and be prescribed for a hundred other conditions that it wasn't approved for but works well for, and some pharmaceutical company will get rich selling something that was cheap as dirt to obtain good quality bulk amounts of only a coupla years ago when it was legal as a natural supplement (as it is found in the human body and animal meats, albiet in small quantities).
My experience w/ the drug in low dosages:
1. Improves mood significantly
2. Enhances motivation
3. Is stimulating but will allow you to sleep
4. Is socially disinhibiting
5. Reduced anxiety
6. No tolerance (provided you do not dose more often than once every 6 hrs)
7. Improved empathy
8. Makes any boring or repitive task able to be done without much complaint (hehe, don't tell this to the communists, next thing you know they'll be shoving ghb down all their citizens throats to get them to work for the collective w/o complaining)The negatives at low dosages (for me, 1.25-2ml's or grams):
1. Memory and cognitive ability are altered very minimally. Much less than benzodiazepines cause for me.
2. Increased time to orgasm (personally I don't care, being close to someone is very pleasurable w/o going further on this)At high dosages (for me, 2.75+ ml's or grams) these are the benefits:
1. Greater social disinhibition
2. Is very easy to go to sleep
3. In a social situation, you'll be making a lot more jokes and laughing at other jokes a very lot more
4. Some people have increased sex drive at these higher dosages while others have no such effect.
5. Euphoria in otherwise mildly pleasurable social situation.At the high dosages, for me, these are the negatives:
1. Memory and cognitive deficits are equal to a low dose of ativan for me (.5-.75mg) or clonazepam (1mg)
2. If used to go to sleep with at these higher dosages, I seem to have reduced memory the next day, not too great, but its there, also some respiratory depression the next day.
3. Driving is dangerous idea
4. There is the potential to pass out for me at dosages about 3.5ml's or grams into a deep sleep for a few hrs (wake up feeling fine, but almost completely unrousable while in this sleep)
5. Using GHB chronically (several times a day at dosages probably above 2.5ml's or grams a time for weeks on end) has the potential to produce absence seizures in prone people due to ghb's agonist effect on gaba-b receptors. Please note that taking an anticonvulsant such as clonazepam would only worsen this.So that's my experience. Anymore I stick with the low dosages all the time. The added benefits of the higher doses are simply not worth the side effects and risks for me. Granted it is fun at higher dosages for social events such as parties (do not drink alcohol though on ghb), but even then I keep it to a mid range dose, from 2-2.75 ml's or grams. I also use about 2.25ml or g's dose after particularly hard workouts. The muscle relaxant and mild analgesic effect of the mid range doses are quite nice, and the side effects aren't bad at midrange doses, and usually I like to relax after a workout anyway.
JGalt
Disclaimer: Any mention of ghb by JGalt refers not to ghb but to a similar substance which is legal in his state and country.
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