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Re:TCA/depakote/sleep? » Ritch

Posted by Chloe on February 1, 2002, at 19:03:43

In reply to Re:TCA/depakote/sleep? » Chloe, posted by Ritch on February 1, 2002, at 0:45:23

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> Glad to hear you are feeling "smoothed out". I can even tell it in your writing. You said that you are going up to 250mg tomorrow? You still are taking it all in the evening? Just a bit of advice-but I would take all of it in the evening if you are having some probs with early morning awakening. Yeah, I gained weight even on the lower doses-BUT *not* having the munchies is a good sign. I *did* have the munchies when I was on lower doses, so maybe you won't have that much of a problem. Are you still on the amitripytline? Are you taking the Depakote in addition to your Neurontin? The Depakote has a long enough half-life so that you *might* be able to take your Neurontin twice a day instead of 3-4x daily (So you could toss in more Neurontin right before you go to bed-and that might help your sleep also).

Hi Mitch,
I don't know if I should take the other 125 mgs in the am or pm. I don't find it helps me sleep, yet anyway. So I was wondering if I should spread the dose evenly thoughout the day. I have read it has a 5-20 hour half life. Now that is a big range...I probably should have tried it this am, and seen how I tolerated it during the day. But I didn't. And tomorrow I have to work, retail, so I don't want to be "too" out of it. You think one evening dose is best for sleep reasons? But what about for cycling coverage? Have you ever taken it BID?

I am still taking the neurontin, 100mgs am, 100mgs 4-5pm, 200 hs. I wish I could take it BID...But I start to sweat and get the shakes if I go much longer than 7 hours without a dose. I always thought it was low blood sugar...But food doesn't cure the neurontin shakes and sweats!

I am still taking the amitriptyline. Though, now it seems like a sugar pill. My sleep is still very light. But I think it's important to keep it on board. I have probably built up a tolerance to the sedating effects. But, it has elevated my energy level, and desire to "do" more. I still get this swell of rage inside a few times a day, but it's not overwhelming. I might fuss or complain for a while. But the rages/agitation that were lasting 30 hours have subsided for now. I have had two days without a huge disruption. Whahoo!


> There is one thing I have been trying lately for sleep soundness and it is adding a tiny dose of Melatonin (200 micrograms) at bedtime, and it seems to be helping. Another thing I really want to investigate is Omega3 stuff. I tried the "fish oil" gelcaps-YUCK-I have heartburn and it was pretty nasty. I heard that flaxseed oil has high Omega3 fatty acids and isn't "fishy". The reason I bring that thing up is I have heard it helps kids with ADHD as well as bipolar.

I have used melatonin before. I am a bit leery of it though, since it can be depressogenic. And it's not known to help with early morning wakening, etc. But if I need to shut down the brain so I can fall asleep, I think it's a good remedy as needed. I might have to go digging in the medicine cabinet and haul that one out for a try...

In terms of fish oil, I take 2 grams(capsules) every night *right* before bed. I do not want them to start digesting until I am asleep. Burping fish oil is one of the most unpleasant experiences there is! I never take them during waking moments! I have no idea if they do anything for mood stabilization, etc. But I have heard that they are good for people with skin problems, ezcema and the like, which is me! It's been part of my routine for years now...So I guess it's not much help for the URC! I too want to try some flax seed oil. It does seem more benign than the fish oil. Though I really don't notices it anymore, since I take it right before bed.

Are you completely off the WB now?
Thanks
Chloe



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