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Re: chronic pain -- it's baaaak

Posted by JohnX2 on March 9, 2002, at 3:19:48

In reply to Re: chronic pain -- it's baaaak » Elizabeth, posted by JohnX2 on March 9, 2002, at 2:49:09


Elizabeth,

FYI,
I don't usually recommend non-pharmaceutical grade
products, but I was using this homeopathic elixer to
help me sleep while quitting klonopin and I found it had
some mild muscle relaxing properties.

Further analysis of the ingredients I found this

hyoscyamus niger
-----------------
alkaloids (trace amounts):
scopolamine
hyoscyamine (an anti-spasmodic)
atropine

and something called
ignatia amara. (dunno what this does).

best non-pharmaceutical sleep aid i took.

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20020307/msgs/97021.html

-John

>
> pain's my game. :(
>
> let me have it...come on, what's it like? ugly details.
>
> I saw a good suite of stretching excersizes
> I stole off this guy's web site for tension headaches.
> It works wonders for me for pains all over the back,neck,head
> that don't respond to aspirin, etc. I wonder if
> they are like your physical therapy excersizes?
> I'll see if I can dig it up for you if you want.
>
> Your back,neck,shoulder muscles really get knotted
> up typing in front of a computer,driving a car, etc.
> I blame my work..they owe me.
>
> Klonopin, Topamax, Serzone. My medicinal pain killers.
> Traditional pain killers never worked.
> Never tried hardcore narcotics/opiods.
>
> -John
>
>
>
>
> > Chronic pain sucks. (You probably knew that already.)
> >
> > The reason I haven't been posting much lately is because my back-neck-shoulder pain has flared up again after having been dormant for quite some time. As a result, typing is something I can only do for a very short time. I've mostly limited myself to checking email, but I haven't even been very good about that. So if you posted something directed at me, or sent me an email and I haven't yet written back, you have my apologies -- I'm not just ignoring you! (I'm ignoring *everything*!)
> >
> > I left a message with my mdoc's answering service, but I'm not sure how reliable he is about responding to those things. I also have an appointment with him, something like 10 days from now.
> >
> > Anybody have any ideas for managing musculoskeletal pain? It goes away when I walk, but it comes back later. I've been doing those exercises I learned way back when, in physical therapy; they don't help any more now than they did then. Ibuprofen and ketoprofen, even very large amounts (e.g., 1200 mg ibuprofen; 150 mg ketoprofen), don't do a damned thing. (I have long since written off Tylenol as a placebo -- "like a sugar pill, only it doesn't even taste good.") Xanax seems to help some, but not reliably. I'm hoping my mdoc will be willing to prescribe Soma, which is what I was taking before and which seems to work pretty well. Opioids probably aren't an option, other than raising the dose of buprenorphine.
> >
> > I'm sure a lot of you guys have similar conditions and know how unpleasant it can be. Any ideas?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > -elizabeth


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