Posted by Dave001 on September 23, 2002, at 11:41:57
In reply to Re: Questions Re: Parnate Nardil for social anxiety, posted by chad_3 on September 22, 2002, at 16:33:50
> Dave -
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> The info I see seems to be often negative on Dexedrine for toxicity. Have not looked too much at this though ...
Again, with all things, it is the dose that makes the poison; rats injected with mega-doses is not necessarily indicitive of what will happen in humans at therapeutic doses. The amphetamines have been used for longer than almost all other drugs we use today.
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> > Benzodiazepines are cognitive inhibitors though; they cause retrograde amnesia in high doses
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> Klonopin is a pretty atypical benzo and also different types of people are effected differently. I would not compare it to Valium,No, not really. Benzos are consistent across the board WRT to the cognitive inhibiting effects. Searching medline I could find only one report of a paradoxical effect, and this occurred within mice (or rats) receiving an extremely low dose of alprazolam.
> > That's odd; a lot of psychopharmacologists have said the exact opposite: that is, Parnate works better for SP.
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> Who? I never heard this from any psychiatrist. I would be happy to hear from anyone who takes Parnate in monotherapy for primary generalized SP to robust result. -
http://www.socialfear.com/It's true that I have heard more people report positive reports from Nardil than Parnate for SP, but I would guess that any psychopharm worth his salt would tell you that "either" works better. ;-) What we describe are really just symptoms, not "diagnoses" per say, e.g., the *cause* is not really known, and it's probably to predict which set of symtpoms are a result of what, etc.. Whatever works...
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> Sleep and weight gain. Nardil weight gain - I hear this is "classic" - but I don't quite know where that comes from. Tricylics, Paxil,
> > Err, the perhaps the literature? Just a guess. ;-)
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> I can't go too long here - but Nardil is old and the newer drugs - the ones most used are worse overall IMO. Low and medium dose NardilIn terms of weight gain? Not according to the studies..
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Dave
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