Posted by LAURA777 on February 9, 2003, at 9:22:00
In reply to BUMMED OUT BIG TIME, posted by not exactly on February 8, 2003, at 18:36:55
hey bob, i have thought alot about this , and from what i can see , is that some people are born with a deficet in both D2 receptor in the nucleus accumbens and a deficet in the endorphins . I believe this area has been looked into but very cautiously because of the addiction factor .. in fact there are meds that block like naltexone . opiate blocker ..
but this only addresses the issue of making the person stop the behaviour , not why they intiated the behavior in the first place ..
i also believe that it is an incompleteness in them that causes this behaviour .. there are many factors invovled and i will just give you a link to where fachad described these factors so very well .. here it is below
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20020527/msgs/405.htmlWhat if a person takes care of the spiritual end , the phsycological end and even the behavioural end but is still is suffering ..
this is the place that i am at .. truly ...
Now i think it is very strange to me that when i ingest some form of opiate, this state in my being begins to change ... this is imperical proof to me that there is something amiss in this area of my biochemistry ..And even though they create drugs that stop addicts from feeling this , because addiction is a horrible state , they need to address what it is that started the whole process in the first place , What makes this complicated is all the factors in fachads post must be considered because they are all very important ... Some people it may be just a screw up in there physcological , hence thearpy is sucessful.. the person is free now .. some it may be a combo of behavioral issuse which in my opinion is directly tied to phsycological .. and the spriritual thing in conjuction with this as well..
Then there is the biological end , could this be the reason why so many fail at alcoholics anonymous or the narcotics anonymous ???i am not stating here that one should continue an addiction to any substance because it breeds a vicious cycle and exasberates the problem .. Sort of like hitting a broken leg with a hammer in hopes that it will heal ...
But this incompleteness that so many feel that lead them to these substances is very real.. and i guess it depends on wheather it's phsychological, or behavioral only ...is directly connected to wheather you become a sucess at being substance free and and content in your life ..
the word content is very operative here .. i am in a state of discontent .. even though i have taken care of all the factors mentioned in fachads post .. i am mentally healthy .. what i mean to say is that i was able to change dysfunctional patterns and perceptions ..
So now here i am stuck at the biological end ...i wonder if the d2 receptor has any link to endorphins ????
i keep going back to endorphins because one of thier properties is that they cause a sense of well being completeness , contentment .. and if you read the article i gave you about the experiment with the alcohol and non alcoholic mice you can see the connection , And wheather a person reaches this state of discontentment because of substance abuse or because they were born with it , or because of tramatic shock is really moot!!!! the point is ... is that it is a very real and profound issue that effects every area of my life .. your thoughts ???
thanks , laura
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URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20030208/msgs/140275.html