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Sleep and Mg....response from Eby

Posted by johnj on April 28, 2003, at 13:59:47

In reply to Re: Best dosing time for Mg *for me* is bedtime, posted by Larry Hoover on April 26, 2003, at 8:52:41

<<Dear Mr. Eby:

I have visited your website from someone that posted it on Dr. Bob's (pyscho babble) website. I had a great experience for around 9 days on Mg citrate and maxed out at 600 mg(taking at night). I started to have sleep problems such as waking up early and just felt really tired. After doing some research I have found Mg can cause sleep disturbances and others on the website have posted similiar problems from taking Mg. What is your take/advice on dosing? Have you heard about this sleep problem from others? I do take a low dose TCA, lithium, and a benzo. If I take 600 mg of Mg citrate it makes me spacey the next day and makes me feel very weak. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Johnj>>

Response:

<< I am not certain what causes the "sleep problem". I do to bed and fall asleep at 10:30 and instantly fall asleep, and wake up at about 4 am every morning and am ready to go. I do much creative work in those early hours, but would prefer to sleep (because I default to lazy). I think that the cause is not so much too much magnesium, but something else that is unmasked by the magnesium. Tentatively, I think that chromium and vanadium are also needed by many people. These agents seem to improve sleep duration and VERY greatly increase energy but the reason is not totally clear at this time, beyond their obvious effects on insulin resistance, which may be the cause of much depression. Search my site http://coldcure.com/html/dep.html for "insulin". Too much sugar is very high on the list of sleep problems instigators, and all of us need to cut out all soluble glucose intake. Dosing of MG varies between people, but a good initial dose is 400 mg magnesium with breakfast, same with lunch and supper and at bed time. That amount can be lowered as desired. However, the need for magnesium with meals can not be overstated. 600 mg MG at one bedtime dose is more than I have ever tried, so perhaps it would make a person wired, weak or spacey, I don't know. If it causes diarrhea, the diarrhea itself can and usually is the cause of problems you described. Diarrhea must be avoided at all costs, and elimination of soluble sugars from the diet will help prevent diarrhea.

Hope that helps.
George
>>


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