Posted by Psychquackery on July 28, 2003, at 21:21:08
In reply to My case for Testostorone(long)...., posted by john Henry on July 28, 2003, at 6:06:13
> -In no way do I condone the methods have used.
>
> Hello,
> I want to make a case for testosterone in combating depression,panic and dp/dr symptoms.
>
> My age:30
> Diagnosis:panic disorder/depression/social phobia
> Meds:
> Zoloft
> klonopin
> remeron
>
>
> Steroids most recently used:
> 600 mgs weekly test cypionate
> 500 mgs weekly deca-durabolin
> 50 mgs daily Proviron
>
> My story:
> After having panic and depression I was told to exercise as a way of relieving panic symptoms.So I joined a gym,one thing lead to another and was forced with the decision to try anabolic steroids.
> after doing a lot of research I decided to try it out.My libido was so horrible from the Zoloft I was willing to try anything.
>
Did someone at this gym force you to take steroids? Im a little confused about how you worded your sentence here.Anabolic steroids (testosterone) can be useful in some cases of severe refractory depression, particularly in men over thirty. However, before one takes it one should do several things. First you should have gone to a medical doctor and point blank explained your situation and requested testosterone testing to be done. If it comes back below normal, you have the green light to go thru with testosterone supplementation. And it does have prominent antidepressant effects, working when other drugs dont work.
But if the tests dont come back abnormal, I wouldnt touch anabolic steroids with a ten foot pole. Its too dangerous. And without a legal prescription from a Medical Doctor its also highly illegal and you are risking a jail sentence taking that stuff illegally on your own.
There is a good deal of research with testosterone for men with severe refractory depression at Columbia University psychiatry in NYC. I think the name of the researcher is someone named Seidman or something along that line. They run clinical trials for men with refractory depression where they give you testosterone gel. Its all legal and well supervised and safe...thus worth a shot if youre over thirty and severely depressed and nothings working.
I had my testosterone checked about six months ago and it came back in the normal range, but very "low normal." It certainly wasnt high or even medium. I have a very very low sex drive and have refractory depression. Im 34 years old. Maybe by the time I hit 40, my T levels will be low enough where I can legally take testosterone under a doctor's care and that will whip my depression in the butt.
Its weird though, cause although my testosterone levels came back in the low normal range, Ive always gained muscle extremely easily and am quite strong naturally. I was a bit perplexed about that.
One OTC supplement thats LEGAL that you can try is something called Tribulis. Bodybuilders claim it helps increase testosterone naturally, although thats mostly marketing hype. However it does cause feelings of well being and users frequently report increased sex drive and better erections. You can get the stuff legally at any GNC store or health food store.
Igor
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