Posted by Larry Hoover on August 24, 2003, at 10:41:49
In reply to Re: for gut health » Larry Hoover, posted by tealady on August 24, 2003, at 5:43:53
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> > Hey, Kelly, I've been looking at the "heal the gut" concept a little more, and it seems that fish oil, and another fatty acid, GLA (that's gamma-linolenic acid, found in evening primrose, borage, and black currant oils) are recommended. Also, the amino acid glutamine. I'm going to come back at you with more particulars, after I study that a bit more.
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> Lar, I was going to mention the glutamine for your "gut" too "Gut instinct" said it may help for you. Glad you found it. You mentioned "mild coeliac" somewhere......Thank you. I appreciate the support. BTW, gut instinct is really a wonderful thing. There's a substantial enteric nervous system, kind of a mini-brain down there, and it uses the same neurotransmitters as the big one up top. I've seen some references claiming there's more serotonin in the gut than in the head (which explains gastrointestinal side-effects of SSRIs, IMHO).
> Some have found glutamine helps fix the "leaky gut", and then they no longer had any "mild" problems with coeliac,etc or IBS...and then they could digest foods ..and health problems cleared up..(of course they did do other stuff at the same time...)
It may well be one of my "missing puzzle pieces", indeed. Well worth the experiment.
> My self, I have it on the "To be tried" list. I've taken it a couple of times, but never given it a fair trial. I'm going for fish oil first..then some of your other suggestions.I really, really hope you get some positive results. <fingers crossed> <eyes, arms, legs, and toes crossed, too, if it'll help any>
> One ex-doc (Larrian, was a urologist then she too became symptomatic so now writes diet books etc.) was always going on in replies to posters about the "gag layer" and "leaky gut" and suggested glutamine among other things to "fix" the gag layer I think?Gag layer? That's a new term to me. I'll do a search on that. <Ah, the glycoaminoglycan layer. More on that, after another pause to research and reflect.> You're a fountain of ideas. vbg
Leaky gut is a symptom, in my opinion. Not a syndrome in itself. Like joint pain.
> Here's the posts if you are interested
> http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroid/messages?msg=47884.9
> and the two following posts 10, 11I like the link to fibro that message 11 raises. As Schultz used to say "Verrry interesting!".
> I think getting the omega 3-6's right would help here too ..in making the lining stronger (instinct here only)..although I have seen remarkable improvements in my skin(and others) with applying mix of oils(EPO, almond, jojoba, coconut), aloe vera, shea butter etc...this is where I broke open the fish oil cap..and found it was rancid..lol..so it didn't get added to the skin cream mix!The skin is permeable in the same way as is the gut (consider transdermal nicotine patches). It doesn't much matter how the essential fatty acids get to the skin. Now, by extension, you might see that all your similar tissues, like the gut lining, might be starving for those fatty acids, as well.
Rancid fats are always unsaturated fats. The unsaturated bits readily oxidize. There's no point in ingesting rancid fats. They'll just put further stress on your body. Freshness is key. The gelcaps that many fatty acid supps are packaged in block oxygen exposure. Keeping them cool and dark is also a good idea.
> The cream actually seem to help the skin get thicker, stronger and more subtle.Definitely less dry and less prone to cracking etc......so perhaps something similar could happen to internal linings too with fish oils etc....gut instinct only
You really do understand this all much better than I think you give yourself credit....
> I (and all my kids)went on elimation diets many years ago, and only found suspected sensitivites or allergies possibly to some amines... red wine, mature cheese, and sodium metabisulphate and some preservative .. the sulphites?..like 282, and some artificial colours like 102, 110.Overt sensitivities, I'd like to emphasize.
The numbered additives concept is not used in North America. It's wonderful. Simple, and clear.
> Actually we were thrown out of the study as I wouldn't say we had reactions to salicylate(so I never really got to blind trial the additives)..and the study was supposed to show salicylate sensitivity for ADD...she actually got her PHD from that study!
Salicylates.....I'm not convinced that salicylates are the guilty party, but may be associated with another trigger substance. Perhaps its worth another look....
> Sidetracked....what I meant was I also show possible mild coeliac symptoms..but I really don't think I have it, but I suspect when I fix my digestion/absorption with bromelaine, fish oil etc, and perhaps glutamine, then all will be clear.
Better, anyway.
> Not sure if this helps as I really have no idea, just you are not alone in the direction of your thoughts and it has seemed to work before..
> JanI really appreciate your contributions, Jan.
Lar
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