Posted by tealady on September 15, 2003, at 5:57:48
In reply to Re: Ear scrreeeeeing » tealady, posted by EscherDementian on September 14, 2003, at 13:06:23
> Tealady, you are awesome, thank your for shared thoughts and research... Yes, it is nice to know that someone else in the world actually has the same thing <<relieved sigh>> and i agree:
If you want to see some more folks with the same or similar have a read of these threads
http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroid/messages?msg=25672.1 Hissing in ears
http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroid/messages?msg=29148.1 ANOTHER "EAR RINGING" QUESTION
http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroid/messages?msg=45324.7http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroid/messages?msg=29013.1 Ringing and floating
Tinnitus anyone http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroid/messages?msg=28222.1
http://forums.about.com/ab-thyroid/messages?msg=39470.20
> >..but far better to know their is a cause, would be even better if one could pinpoint it.
> >...this is what I want to find out..what one needs and what one should avoid.
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> Collectively rubbing our braincells together we're sure to get a spark!Maybe not..I've reached my brain cell limit<g>
> i find out (if anything) after my appt with a new pdoc.Now with his brain cells too.....more hope
> Am going to request some 'state of the union' tests for my thyroid, liver, etc. and everything else this new pdoc thinks might be pertinent.OK make sure you get TSH, FT4,TPO antibodies and liver function tests at the minimum!
You could add FT3 and TSI, TBII if your moods/energy goes up and down.
If female? add ferritin and if also over 35 add day 14 of cycle(meaning 14 days before next period starts) estradiol...
and whatever else the doc wants to run...probably the most important would be antiTPO (or anti microsomal antibodies instead or as well as), and the next most most important would be TSH. You have to get these at least.
And don't take "normal" as answers..get copies of your bloodwork ,you are legally entitled to a copy...and let me know what your results are.
TSH over 1.5 is iffy, over 2 need tyrosine at least! Antibodies can mean normal thyroids with normal hormone output still don't reach the receptors in normal amounts, so your body functions hypothyroid...
Also a good sign of hypothyroid is if your temperature under your arm are usually lower than 97.5? Try taking them when you awake in the morning and a couple of times during the day..when relaxing or on the computer, not after exercise
Oh ya, best to make your appointment for the blood tests first up in the morning and fast beforehand..or as early in the morning as possible and don't eat any sugars, carbohydrates at least before the test..due to TSH circadian rhythm and the why sugars may effect the TSH..and definitely no pdrugs/vits beforehand..fasting is best. Also best to take no iron, vitc or fish oil etc for 3 days before tests if testing ferritin. Ferritin is a biggy with females who are hypothyroid..or inclined a bit that way.Going to ask pdoc to test for even far-reaching possible influences (challenge my med.insurance! YaH!) and i'll put what i learn out there for you, too.
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> A few things you said "rang a bell"(sorry :P) for me, too:
> Acetylcholinerase >))BONNGGggg(((<< may be an issue for me- isn't it produced in the liver? i have a pre-existing (but not alcohol caused)liver challenge. And seratonin *definately* lowers as AcH begins getting processed, i think (ergo the 'can't stop once get started' syndrome for some people, maybe?). ~Going to look into T3 (T3/T4), thank you.
Well I think AcH is in all body cells/neurons..normally, so anything that effects it ihas to be a biggy..and it probably works in with serotonin and everything else too. Not sure if science knows a lot about it...obviously more than I know <g>> Somewhere else in my notes i vaguely remember a mention of tyrosine, too. How do *you* take it?
>Well if you are going for blood test, don't start on it until after the tests as it will increase your thyroid output
If male, take between 1000mg and 2000mg when first get out of bed before meals..preferably an hour before many protein
If female, 500mg first thing in morning..or after lunch as this is when estrogen levels are highest, debatable. I take 500mg in the morning on waking at present. I have tred 2000mg..too much.
Females. I have just found out, don't need as much tyrosine as males.> Lack of sleep and noise >)))BONNGGggg(((<< ... LOL, i, too went through a barking dogs/no sleep issue (do we live in the same neighborhood?!?),
lol
>but it had been resolved before the meds and screeeeing. My lack of sleep was actually from torqued up long term anxietyyes, I have that anxiety too
>TS/depression/daytime sleep. But maybe that's still the same: 6/one=Half12/other...? About those fridge noises(!):
> >I have always heard "high pitched motor type" noises..like the fridge nw I think of it and others cant..but that is a definite noise..
> No, i don't seem to have *particularly* good hearing, but i HAVE always heard the 'fridge-noises', too! i've always called it "hearing the electricity on" as proven in silhouette each time we've had our annual PGE blackouts (i live in a forested area with decent storms and winds once a year).actually I always called them electrical noises too...I really hate my computer,some electric lights even, but the fridge is the pits! I don't hear it now on thyroid meds, hmm and lights don't really bother me any more either...what a reason to take thyroid meds! Maybe I sleep sounder?
> Is good hearing really a sign of high Seratonin??? That throws a monkeywrench in the works about my thought that i was *low* seratonin. maybe-?
I was just testing ya!! I had always thought I was low on serontonin too..but I wondered! I really have no idea though.
But normal speech hearing, like thinking the TV is on too loud is a sign of high serotonin. Also you are usually higher in morning than in evening, so some folks need to turn TV up in morning and down at night.I gave McPac a link to some serontonin posts I searched for
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> Yet then again,>))BONNGGGgggg(((<<<< what you pondered re a strong 5-HT reuptake inhibiter (Lexapro @ 5-HT+++) OR specifically a 5ht2c antagonist possibly affecting someone sub-optimal in thyroid function in this way, definitely bears looking into for me too.Well this kinda reads that they LOWER this 5HT2c..an antagonist. So low levels to start with ..and they lower it? If only knew what a 5HT2c does..like is it reponsible for fridge noises?...imagine asking a doc that!Ha, ...He'd think I had other problems in my head, <g>
When I was hypothyroid, I was borderline in blood tests, and not typical. However, i was taken off the med (synthroid <-sp?) later, when my bloodtests no longer reflected that level.
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> i'll look at
> http://www.bentham.org/sample-issues/cmc9-8/spinks/spinks-ms.htm
> thanx again.
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> Okay here's one for you~ what's your exercise or sunlight exposure like at these times?at present, rotten ..going to start exercising tomorrow!
i was unable to take any daylight walking (-am not much of a schwarzenegger by any means, anyway. More like a (female version) Louis in Interview with a Vampire, sans eating rats ;)!)well I haven'rt seen that one so still don't know what you look like <g>
but i wonder if the lack of outdoor activities/sunlight that was going on then also had a part to play? Hmmm....no, now that i remember, it didn't matter. Activity/no activity, when i tried to read or sleep, the screeeing made it impossible to do either.
Nah, don't think so. I was surprsingly trying to exercise dalily back then! or most of the time , amnd there was no difference due to exercise level
> Heck, How about your bloodtype/diet correspondences while we're at it!? Ever read (about the link between blood type, bio-origins and diet/disease ):
> "Eat Right 4 Your Type" (i know, corny title. Subtitle: 4 blood types, etc.)
> i found fascinating information and experienced amazing results for my own blood type A-I'm blood type A too!!!!
....except since being 'pschyco-quixote', i couldn't keep a responsable nutrition intake if my sanity depended on it. Oh! maybe it did ;)
I did look at it once I think ,,or some diet on blood type, and I didn't like the foods!
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> ~>>whew<<~
> 'till next,
> EscherDementian
> thinks making sound effects with typed font is a ^HOOT^
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> (gosh, i'm sorry. SOMEBODY PLEASE pass the ADDerall?)
>
Jan
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