Posted by ace on October 27, 2003, at 18:06:44
In reply to End of my rope/Lamitcal/Nardil, posted by maryhelen on October 27, 2003, at 6:54:23
> Hi everyone:
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> I read these boards fairly regularily, however, I do not usually post.
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> As usual, I am always thankful at how well researched everyone is, as I cheat and don't do it myself. Most of that is because I seem to get everywhere but where I need to be when I want to know something, or it is all pharmaceutical advertising. Fairly computer illiterate. Truly stunned at the brilliant writing sytles, humour, wit, caring, kindness, and I don't even feel at all capable of expressing myself as such.
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> Having said all that ..... I am truly at the end of my rope. For 25 years, I won't go into all of the hospitalizations, substance abuse programs, ECT... ect. The multitude of drug combos, as most of have experienced.
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> The difference being for me right now is that I have returned to work after a 2 1/2 year sick leave and I am totally stressed out and overwhelmed. I have held the same job for 30 years, but it may as well be a new one, with all of the new and everchanging computer programs. However, I do not think that this stress has caused this latest, bleak, suicidal depression. Over the years, being off work, when I went through these difficult times the difference would be that I could ride it out, literally in bed.
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> I will not carry on but get to my question.
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> I was taking Parnate for 2 1/2 years. I can't say that I was on top of the world, but I guess I got by. Last March, when many difficult things were happening in my life, my pdoc augmented it with Lamitcal. I had about 3 weeks, very quickly, of feeling the best 'normal' that I had ever felt in my 51 years, it was almost scary. As I say this response only lasted about 3 weeks. I have upped the dose, now just started 400 mg. By the way, went off the Parnate about 2 months ago. Realized over the years that my hair was thinning, I was getting bald spots, and in the last months of taking it, my hair was falling out in handfuls. I could find no other reason, other than the Parnate.
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> Doc just added Celexa, been on it three other times and do not want to continue.
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> I am going to start Nardil on Saturday. Have heard such positive things about it here. I am so reluctant to go off the Lamitcal, in case it many blessidly kick in again. Doc checked. It doesn't contradict.
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> Questions are: Nardil, Lamitcal .... I don't know what to do. What dose can you start with on the Nardil. How fast can you up it.
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> I am truly desperate. Have to go to work in 15 minutes after being away last week. This should be good. Principal not too happy, I am sure. Panicked. Scared. Tired of the med changes, washouts, the waiting.....
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> Also, I am heavily addicted to pain medications. Percs, tylenol 3's, anything that takes away the depression, and they do. Taking too many lately when I can get them, and then have the inevitable crash. Cannot take any benzos, any sleep meds as such, because of my addiction. Have insomnia and I am in constant pyhsical pain for varying reasons.
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> Please help. I am not going to read this over. Just send it. It is probably incoherent, babbling, too long, scattered, wish there was spell check.
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> Thanks for listening.
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> maryhelen
Hi Mary,Sorry to hear you are so down. Life can be real hard sometimes, and it's even worse if you are plagued by depression.
Rest assured YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK!
I CANNOT RECOMMEND NARDIL ENOUGH!
But, if you truly want it to work there are a couple of things you must keep in mind: DOSE AND DURATION.
DOSE- You might need a dose of up to 90mg.
DURATION: You might have to wait for up to 6 weeks for action.
here is my recommended dosing schedule...1. start at 45mg- stay at this for 1 week
2. raise to 60mg- stay at this for 4 weeks
3. If things are not helped raise to 90mg and stay put at that dose.
Please, Please be patient with the s/effects: they all usually go. If you get insomnia (But you might not: Nardil; helps my sleep greatly) use antihistamines.The benefits of Nardil are amazing- not just for me too. So many people find peace on this drug after years, sometimes decades, of suffering.
BUT, AGAIN, PLEASE BE PATIENT!!!! GIVE IT TIME TO WORK IT'S MAGIC.
aND KEEP IN MIND IT MIGHT KICK IN QUICK...YOU NEVER KNOW. ONE THING I DO KNOW IS THAT IT ALMOST NEVER FAILS. THE ONLY TIME I'VE SEEN IT FAIL IS WHERE THE PERSONS WERE PROBABLY RECIEVING SUBPOTENT NARDIL (THE DRUG COMPANY SCREWED UP!)
ANY MORE QSTNS FEEL FREE TO ASKNARDIL IS NEAR
THERE IS NO MORE NEED TO FEAR....
ACE.
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