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Re: social anxiety suffering... looking for some help!

Posted by Alexander on November 21, 2003, at 2:12:42

In reply to Re: social anxiety suffering... looking for some help!, posted by tony_sa on November 20, 2003, at 16:40:13

> >
> > totally:
> > if u go to school, or so, my advice:
> > ...finger off of Klonopin/Rivotril/clonazepam
> >
> > I took it for a while, yes it has a great anxiolytic potential, but at a great cost as well. Valium is the only bezo that the books give a higher rating on anxiolytic effect. That's what I am currently taking.
> >
> > But, in any case, I would seriously suggest that you get yourself a new doctor, that you find yourself the "patient Bill of Rights" the US one cannot be that different from the Canadian, which says that MD and patient are to communicate as "equals" or on "equal footage". I don't remember.
> > It is your life,
> > you have the right to self-determination,
> > you have the right to pursue happiness
> > Will you want to give all of that up because of some ignorant "person"?
> > "as equals" - that means if he doesn't know of what he is talking about, he ought to listen to you and do some research - medicine is a job of "life-long learning" - that just comes with the huge salary.
> > now tell your doc he should check his attitude or his license at the door, (before he goes and sees patients), become a real physician and/or refer you to one that is one and will take over, as it is his responsibility.
> >
> >
>
> Wow. thanks for the thorough message. helps a lot! you know what you said about the doctor is so true. part of my problem is i'm intimidated by figures in authority, so of course i am more than uneasy about questionoing the authority of the doctor. i find that i may visit the doctor with one attention but the doctor 'changes' my mind, ie my last experience when i brought up what he later scowled at - nardil .
>
> i've never heard of this bill of rights, and i wish i knew how to find another doctor, especially since i'm assuming many psychiatrists act like they know all there is about medicine and i'm just a novice.
>
> well, i guess we'll see what happens!

ok,
I don't know where u live, thus I cannot give u any "advice". If u happened to live in Canada, I could give u a few very effective hints.
...talking about the "Bill of Rights"
---they are two different documents with the same name in canada and in the states.

In Canada it is more like a document that tells the MD to get down from his high horse (and shows and instructs the people as to how to use a "lasso", which stands for "or else"... It is a document that is only "nicknamed" 'Bill of Rights, 1996', is "fortunately" not a 'guideline' enacted by the 'colleges' but has been enacted in the house of commons.

The US Bill, I think is more something like formalities like that u have the right to know each and every individuals name that has had anything to do with your "treatment" from the doctor nurse, even the individual that counted your pills in the hospital. It gives you the right to refuse medical treatment, but itmay be much more. I just don't remember it anymore.

My recommendation to you:
get onto the webpage of your state's college of physicians and surgeons and do some reading. Try to educate your doctor, and if he resists report him for incompetence (not to mention professional misconduct). And lastly: get yourself an MD that knows his stuff. They are out there, not easy to find, but not quite like WMD - talk talk talk, but nowhere to find. Most importantly: when u terminate ur md-patient relationship, make it very clear (in your essay) that u do that because u seriously believe that he cannot help you, that you have a right to it and that he please find u someone that can/will. Because as long as u under the care of a doctor, they cannot abandon you. And by referring you to another doctor, the other doctor consents to take u as his patient, in which case he cannot abandon you either.

Do some reading, yourself, about your problems and the various treatments, because u have to assume that
a) the MD has not touched a medical journal in years
b) thus he understandibly may be afraid to engage in certain "therapies" - it's like using a device without having read the manual.

This will give him "back-up". Because, after all, the last thing that they wish is to lose their license. They, too, have families to feed.

In other words: help comes to those that are willing to help themselves. DO IT.
Alex


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