Posted by ace on January 11, 2004, at 3:28:45
In reply to Re: For ACE - I'm starting Nardil tomorrow, posted by mattdds on January 8, 2004, at 6:03:39
> Ace,
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> Thanks for the tips bud. I'll be thinking of some more as they arise.
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> >>Congratulations on the career. Ive mentioned I'm going to be a psychopharmacologist?
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> Cool, I can see why you chose that route, with the dramatic changes psychopharm has made on your life. Best of luck to you!
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> I'm not in a terrible state right now. Klonopin kills any anxiety, and all the CBT I've had helps a ton. Right now, with as busy as I've been I don't have much time to do anything else to "self-help" besides taking a friggin' pill! I have no qualms with that, BTW, if Nardil works for me.
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> But depression is insidious in onset for me (for most), so I want to "nip it in the bud". I don't want to let it spiral like I did 3 years ago. I'm going to use everything available.
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> Enough rambling.
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> Now it's time for Nardil questions of the day:
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> 1. Can one do rigorous exercise while taking an MAOI? I know there are some pretty serious quantities of systemic epinephrine / norepinephrine being released while exercising. Maybe the "other" MAO, COMT (catechol-0-methyl transferase) would mop it up. I've never heard of exercise being contraindicated, but it just kinda scares me.OK. I have heard of one person who fainted when doing intensive excercise on Nardil. Hpwever, this is very rare Matt. I have pushed myself to extremes and have had no problem whatsoever. I wouls say go for it but monitor vitals if there is any change in physical state. But again, go for it- i wouldn't worry.
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> 2. The dreaded orthostatic hypotension. A few questions about your experience with this. Most likely this is dose-dependent, but for you, at what dose does it start?Another thing which is greatly variable from one user to the next. Matt, to be honest, I only experienced it a couple of times when I first went up to 90mg. Since then, even at 120mg, I have no OH. Actually when I experienced it, it was kinda fun! Not scary at all. A few do suffer this, but you maybe free of it.
Did it go away for you with continued use?
As stated, I never really had it. But for some it does go away, for others it is fairly constant.
> 3. Sexual stuff. How would Nardil anorgasmia (male) compare to SSRI anorgasmia. Do you have any experience with the SSRI's?Yes, Zoloft in particular. Unfortunately I believe anorgasmia is much more prominent with Nardil than with SSRIs. And, it can be very constant.
Man, Parnate was pleasantly pro-sexual, too bad Nardil doesn't share that same quality.
At first it did! And when i went back on it once it was unbelievable...I was that sexual!. Now my sex drive is very much down, and, unfortunatley, with my new girlfriend, I am no able to orgasm. But she is very understanding.
Matt, I must mention, there is antidotes to Nardil anorgasmia- cyproheptadine, bethanechol and more. Be careful with the first. Furthermore, you might not experience it or it might be very transient for you. Hopefull it will be pro-sexual for you, as it is in a very small minority.
If it did, you would likely see fast food chains with "Nardil-friendly" menus, with all the men that would take it.
Ha Ha Ha!!! You are right there bro!!
> Thanks in advance man. I'll keep you updated on how it goes.
You better man!
> Staring at that little bottle of orange pills has a pretty strong placebo effect, with all the positive success stories of it! I'd be thrilled if I got 50% the efficacy that you have from it.
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> Take care fellow Nardil "mate".
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> Matt
>Good on you friend...and ask me any qstn whenever...technical or non-technical...I'm here to help bro, and I truly hope you benifit greatly of this gem of a compound!
Your mate....peace to you bro,Andrew (Ace)
Nardil- 90mg
Zyprexa- 2.5mg
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