Posted by francesco on March 29, 2004, at 6:42:20
In reply to Re: What side effects would make you quit? » francesco, posted by rod on March 29, 2004, at 3:10:20
> Dear Francesco
>
> Im no doctor or psychologist, but that totally sounds like mania to me. What about trying Depakote/Depakene if you got hyper even on Litium? This schouldnt have any antidepressive affect at all. And dont try it alone. Also take an AD at that time. Maybe everything works out fine then.Yes, you should be right. The problem is that I have never had manic or hypomaniac phases without antidepressants. And moreover I fear that antinconvulsivant will make me dumb. I have been on a low a dose of Trileptal for a while and I could barely speak. It was like my intelligence was gone. But these are excuses. The truth is that I can't stand an antidepressant anymore without a mood stabilizer. Thanks for having me made me think about it.
> And something about your ADHD. *I* really doubt you have that. I mean feeling like an old whise man and getting hyper while being on an SSRI is somewhat an argument against ADHD. These people get worse on an SSRI, most of the time. And the snobby behavior is also a manic symptom in my opinion.
I'm not so sure on this point. There are some kind of ADHD who do well on SSRIs (the so called 'overfocused' adhd). And the antidepressant who helped me most was Anafranil who has also NE-reuptake properties (Celexa and Paxil didn't do that much for my concentration). So, my adhd can me comorbid with BP-II. But I can be totally wrong on this point. I just have all the syntoms, maybe there is another explaination though. But the most important thing is going on a mood stabilizer I suppose. I'm just scared of the dumb effect. And I have never been diagnosed as bipolar in the last ten years, so, it has been quite a schock for me. Unfortunately all the hints point in that direction.
Thanks anyway, you have given me hope. Now I know there's a possibility for me. My previous psychiatrist said I could be on the bipolar spectrum but I refused the idea of taking a mood stabilizer. I just took Trileptal for two weeks and when he added an antidepressant I 'forgot' to take it again. And since then the things started to precipitate. I didn't get manic on Anafranil but I felt like I was on better than all the other people. I mean, this is quite bipolar I think. But even when my mood is normal, and sometimes it is, I have difficulty in concentrating. So, maybe also comorbid ADHD is a possibility. Anyway, thanks a lot, I will re-consider my bipolarism.
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