Posted by Sad Panda on April 23, 2004, at 15:12:20
In reply to Re: Clobazam (Frisium in Aus.) compared to clonaze, posted by Daemon on April 22, 2004, at 19:33:55
> > Hi Damian,
> >
> > The info I have is 10mg of Clobazam = 0.25mg of Clonazepam or 5mg of Diazapam. It's an unusually one for Australia, it isn't in the PBS. I doubt you will get Clonazepam as it is indicated for epileptics only. PBS choices are Alprazolam, Oxazepam or Diazepam.
> >
> > Which TCA are you taking & what don't you like about it?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Panda.
>
> Hi Panda,
> thanks. Yeah I was prescribed frisium for TMJ and
> my mum was prescribed it for pain- it actually was
> covered for me by TAC once but not anymore(Transport Accident Commission in Australia that you can get compsenation from but getting blood from a stone might be easier!).
>
> I'm on amitriptyline- Endep/Elavil (?).
>
> I don't like:
> weight gain,
> sedation (I take it before bed but still feel slow the next day, hard to get out of bed etc),
> dry mouth,
> urinary retention
> and other stuff I can't think of now.
>
> Does nothing for SAD.
>
>
> I have been given a reccommendation from the Victorian Association of Anxiety Disorders Association for a a psychiatrist who specialises
> in anxiety. If I can't get it from them I may
> be forced to shop around or go through drug trials
> with the psych until they relent and let me try Clonazepam lol!
>
> I am thinking of taking Clonazepam with Neurontin- both are anti-convulsant though so I'd have to have a pretty 'with it' psych who knows his stuff.
>
> MAOIs are out of the question because of the restrictive diet.
>
> Also I wonder about trying Prozac again (was on it years ago and loved it but went off it)- something for energy and confidence? Some people say they get apathy but wouldn't apathy be better than SAD lol?
>
> Damian.
>
>Clomipramine would be worth a trial instead of Amitriptyline. It is more serotoninergic, has a similar amount of noradrenaline effect, is less anticholinergic, so less dry mouth & urinary retention & alot less sedating, so it would cause less weight gain.
I wouldn't eliminate MAOI's, the diet is a lot less restrictive these days & MAOI's have the least amount of side effects.
Cheers,
Panda.
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