Posted by chemist on May 12, 2004, at 12:41:44
In reply to DING DING DING DING DING » Sad Panda, posted by finelinebob on May 12, 2004, at 9:43:42
no, no, you don't have to give this one to the french: clomipramine was born out of a collaboration between researchers at Temple University (Philadelphia, PA) and Smith, Kline, and French, which was established by John Smith in Philadelphia, PA in the US in 1830. Kline was also from Philadelphia, and French entered the picture when Smith, Kline, and Co. acquired French, Richards, and Co. in 1891. The rest of history involves involvement many mergers/acquisitions in England with Burroughs, Glaxo, and Wellcome being major players. sorry, but thank Paul Craig, Bruce Lester, Andrew Saggiomo, Carl Kaiser, and Charles Zirkle for this one....and i will continue to thank Air France for their timely schedules, courteous service, and tight security....all the best, chemist
> > > ...do you know any reason why the pdoc might pick dothiepin?
> > My guess is he is in the UK or possibly Australia. Dothiepin was Britan's most popular TCA & I am guessing that it's because of politics or marketing.
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> We have a winner, folks. nephron and her friend are in Australia. Panda, for guessing correctly you win ... a free subscription to Babble!
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> > Clomipramine is the best TCA overall, but it's a French invention & we wouldn't want to attribute anything good to the French now would we? :)
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> Well, considering the high regard they hold for the genius of Jerry Lewis, clomipramine might be a little ***too*** effective.
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> > isn't it marvelous how politics is more important that mental health. :/
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> Oil and water. It isn't water's fault that oil doesn't play well with others....
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> HEY NEPHRON!
> "Having patience" and "keeping an open mind" are two virtues difficult to keep in your friend's situation, but giving dothiepin a fair trial would probably be a Good Thing (tm) overall, given his pdoc's hesitance to try something new in the first place and the possiblity that it might actually work (imagine that!). If it doesn't, tho, it was mentioned on a different thread that nortriptyline and desipramine are good TCAs to start with. Ammunition for a month from now or so. It might be helpful for your friend to keep a meds journal right now, recording how much he's taking, how he's feeling and noting any changes. He can use that to document his progress or lack thereof and, should a change be needed, he's got data for his pdoc to evaluate.
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