Posted by Keith Talent on June 1, 2004, at 2:59:20
In reply to Re: What's the highest dose of dex/meth anyone's on?, posted by katalina on May 31, 2004, at 19:24:10
> dexedrine as much, although it was a little "friendlier" physically (didn't cause my heart rate to rise at all or feel amped up at all). Unfortunately, I found that I need the l-isomer portion of the amphetamine salts which does give me more energy than the dexedrine alone. Have you ever tried Adderall (amphetamines) instead to see if they give you more of that get up and go feeling?
Adderall is not, to my knowledge, on the market in Australia (neither is Dexedrine Spansules or Focalin). Since I like to exercise a lot (both weight-training and cardiovascular), the worse peripheral side effects of the levo enantiomer of amphetamine (present in Adderall but not Dexedrine) would most likely be unacceptable to me. I also have hypertension (controlled), which, again, would be more likely to be worsened by Adderall than by Dexedrine.
> I'm also aware that benzos and stimulants work synergysticlly (sp?) and that they don't cancel each other out. It's just that if the doses aren't tweaked just right, one can feel less of the stimulant and more sedated than if the doses are fine tuned. I think 4 mgs. of clonazepam isn't considered low and could possibly be negating some of the dexedrine's more positive effects. Don't know if you ever tried lowering it to see, but just wanted to offer the suggestion.
Essentially, I don't feel any more sedated taking 4 mg a day of clon than I did taking 0.5 mg a day. It's just much better at relieving anxiety at higher doses. So I wouldn't want to lower it "to see", even if it was negating some of the dex's beneficial effects. To tell you the truth, I've only been taking these two meds for about two months. They are already improving my life drastically, but I can feel that I'm not close to optimal doses of either yet.
> Also, did you take Effexor with the Dex? I noticed it potentiated the stimulant effect, and on it's own it was weak for me as well.
I was on the Effexor years ago (I found it to be neither sedating nor activating); back then I tended to regard the use of any potentially addictive drugs in a very narrow, judgmental way, unfortunately.
All the best,
Keith
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