Posted by mindreseacher on September 16, 2004, at 6:56:02
In reply to Re: SLeep Problems with amphetamines, posted by craig getty on September 15, 2004, at 23:45:21
Ya know thats funny because i know people like that. THere is times i took adderall and or ephedrine and feel asleep. Now you say your are going to up the dose. NOw take into consideration your bodywieght and tolerance. Im 230, have a huge tolerance to meds, and Adderall, wears off in 5-6 hrs, Now adderall xr is not covered by my silly insurance. I would think dexedrine spanuals would not be either.
I was never into sleed or coke, so i know that i wont get a severe addiction to adderall., at most a dependance. But a positve one since it helps me so much. ANd is legally perscribed. Like i said im researching as we speak NOOtropics and i have about 25 listed. But I wil not post about themm due to the FDA rule on here.
Natural supplements dont seem like there working like they shoudl, but im not expecting them to replace meds, just boost them up and or replenish receptor activity. Like you said,you cant just stop 90mg a day adderall, like i did, or you will be sleeping for 3 days, literally, then another 3 in bed. So that waisted a week of my life.
I have been taking Ritalin, 30mg 2x daily, which i still dont feel is working, but is keeping me up and doing things. Now Its Ritalin LA, so its working 7 hrs at least. ITs the only alternative i could take witout going into hypbernation, while giving amphetamies a break.BUT, i only plan to do this for 2-3 days,, because i just took a 10 day break 1 week ago. So i will resume my adderall tommorrow, for another week, and if it goes well, ill stick with doing such. But just swithing over to ritalin for 7 days, is sorta silly because first im not perscribed it,second it doesnt work as well, and may become tolerant to that also. THen nothing will work. So i read amphetamines dont take long to get back some or most of their tolerance. Esp if i take another Da or Na stimulant like welbutrin, or Bromocripite.
Since adderall releases stored dopamine and ne, more so that blocking the reuptake, i again theorized this. Take a natural supplement precursor like L-Tyrosine or NadH to produce dopamine. This will allow more dopamine available to be released. Then if i do find a medication or Nootropic , make sue it moreso,blocks the reuptake of DA/Na, To a lessser extend like welbutrin. Nothing too power full or ill be like taking a dose of METHamphetamine! (meth both blocks and releases Da/Na, Last 2-3 x longer int he brain, and releases Serotonin. Now i see why meth is so potent and addictive. Mix meth with oxy and you have the ultimate addictive combo.
But back to adderall. You did say, lack of motivation, disorganized, disarray feeling, confused, dysphoric mood, is what i used ot experience so much, i could not take it, and would have to use drugs. (opites). But the money you spend on opiates is the downfall. I colld say i did not have any really serious other problems but money and withdrawl. But that was only within 8 months. So now i have a medication or 2 plus supplements that work very very well, i dont want to loose the effect. Result can be me going back to opiates which is what i cannot afford. I dont drink alcholol, which is good, no extacy nothing.
Addiction has so many different branches i would write a book on it in expereinces. Hit me back on your adderall trial.
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