Posted by karaS on October 18, 2004, at 12:46:03
In reply to the perils of propityline » karaS, posted by zeugma on October 17, 2004, at 22:46:26
> > > and I'm waiting for a rare moment of clarity AND energy!
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> > Some people just want it all, I guess...
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> yup. i am insatiable.
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Spoken like a man... :-)
> > > hmmm. would it cause its taker to attract pity, or casue its taker to pity him/herself?
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> > Since it's a dual reuptake inhibitor, I'd say both!
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> its first action (attraction of pity) might be mildly therapeutic for a while. but this could easily lead its taker to lose his/her drive, seeing as how every action taken leads to pity on the part of onlookers. Job well done? "Did you overwork yourself? Next time, we'll give you nothing to do. You need a rest!" Job poorly done? "You did your best. We appreciate that around here." Hmmm, i might give this one a try...Yes, we can market it as a drug for slackers!
> Second action (self-pity), i doubt this would separate from placebo on standard depression measurements. But there might be a synergistic action between the two mechanisms. It would be interesting to see how rats do with this one on the learned helplessness test.You think waayyyy too much! (meaning I don't have a clever response for this one)
> > Effexor helped me very little. It prevented me from having panic attacks and, by numbing out my emotions, it prevented me from crying at the drop of a hat (which is what I'm doing now. It doesn't take much - a sappy commercial on TV or a movie like "Lassie, Come Home". Yes, I do mean Lassie the dog! It's kind of like really bad PMS - not that that would mean anything to you.)<<yes it does. i am a close observer of those around me. PMS is readily apparent. (but don't all men delude themselves into thinking they understand women?) and i love dogs. the last year i've shed many tears for mine. >>
I think there is a substantial amount of men who would claim that they don't understand women at all - the non-thinkers as well as some Henry Higgins types.
Also, it's different to cry over your own dog versus Lassie in a movie on TV. But it's nice to hear that you're a dog lover. I love animals myself. I have two cats now (but I won't go any further with this or I'll get booted over to Social).
> Ok, I know it's time to take the Cymbalta. I think I'll try 10 mgs. after dinner. (Cluck, cluck).
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> I wonder how cymbalta compares to propityline as a dual reuptake inhibitor. Probably the main difference is pharmacokinetic. (true meaning of "psycho-babble.")I certainly hope there's more difference than that.
> > But what if the serotonin activity from the Cymbalta makes my DA autoreceptors even more sensitive? I could be making the situation worse... Then I get off of it and try something else, right?
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> Yes, well, there is that issue. Then you go from the perils of propityline (I mean Cymbalta) to the marvels of Marplan. All will be well :)Yes, there is always the next drug...
You're thinking that this probably isn't the med for me, aren't you?
> > How are YOU doing? When are you starting the dexedrine or is that not definite yet?
> Not definite. I'm researching amphetamines now (that's where I turned up that article about alpha-1-b receptors). Eating a banana a day (for potassium) has helped my tic. Very much touch and go.Do you know what is causing the tic (could it be any or your medications?) or is that why you assume you have a movement disorder?
> Please tell me how the 10 mg went down!
Hold on to your hat and get out the benzos because what I have to say now could be shocking to your system..... I DID take the 10mg last night and I'm still here to report back on it. It was fairly uneventful. I feel a little bit drugged this morning but it's very mild. I don't have a sense yet of whether this is going to be more serotonergic or noradrenergic in its side effect profile for me yet. Plus that can change as the dosage changes. I'll definitely take another 10 mg. (or dare I say 15 mg. or even 20 mgs tonight). A good thing is that it is definitely helping with the Effexor withdrawal. (Can you believe that I'm having trouble now that I'm going off of the last 9 mg.? What an evil, evil drug. Had it helped me more I would not say that.) So far no one has said anything about the withdrawal on Cymbalta. Maybe no one has been on it long enough to really test the full potential of it's withdrawal effects.K
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