Posted by Ritch on January 11, 2005, at 13:41:07
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin vs. Ritalin, posted by lars1 on January 11, 2005, at 10:42:04
> > I've taken both, separately and together. The buproprion actually would be less likely to poop out than the stim, but it definitely caused me a lot of insomnia and I can't take the stuff (one of the reasons). Bupropion also has metaboites that last longer than the parent drug and those metaboites are also active. OTOH, I could take MPH 3 hours before bedtime and then crash and sleep like a rock all night. I wouldn't bother with MPH unless you are taking something like Concerta that will level out all of the crashing. If you've got depressive problems along with ADD, the bupropion should work a lot better. If you have trouble with insomnia from the buproprion, you might do better with a TCA instead.
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> Hi Ritch,
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> Thanks for the info. I would definitely want one of the sustained-release forms if I took methylphenidate. Could you compare how bupropion and MPH actually feel, aside from the different duration of action?
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> Lars
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>The "kickin" is very different for me. Bupropion actually makes me feel a little tired for the first few hours after I take it. I get some mild nystagmus (eye jiggles) from it. AFter about six hours or so that's when the "stimulating" effect of it starts to happen. I also get this "time dilation" effect from bupropion. It's the ONLY med that I've ever noticed this with---time goes by VERY slowly and I feel very impatient with many things that I have to wait on. It makes me feel more DRIVEN and I find it kind of hard to sit still. It's somewhat agitating. MPH, kicks in very very fast, my attention immediately gets very focused and there is a cardiovascular component to it that's hard to miss. However, I don't get the restlessness and I don't get the time dilation thing with MPH. There is one thing that both of them seem to share--I have this breathing tic that tends to happen where I feel like I have to voluntarily take breaths it doesn't seem to happen on its own. I didn't like that. Also on MPH if I took a higher dose (i.e. 20mg), I would get another annoying tic of needing to repetitively swallow. Didn't like that. Dexedrine was the only stim that was tic free for me. Adderall.. I got an occasional tic where I felt I needed to sip water all the time.
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