Posted by willyee on June 29, 2005, at 13:10:24
In reply to Re: Social Anxiety Treatment, Thinking Outside the Box, posted by mike84 on June 28, 2005, at 8:45:12
> There are a variety of treatments for SA, some legal, some illegal. Please, don't use illegal drugs and try to self-medicate yourself. This is very dangerous. If SSRI's and Benzo's have had little effect, talk to your doctor about going on an antipsychotic such as Risperdone or Zyprexa. Antipsychotics are not just used for psychosis...It is actually indicated for severe social anxiety. An SSRI with a small dose of risperdone should be very effective. The thing about phenalzine is that you have to be on a very careful diet, and there are little medications that you can mix with MAOI's.
Wow i actualy believe in the opposite of everything you just said:
"Please, don't use illegal drugs and try to self-medicate yourself
Im not gonna advocate street drugs,but i also am not gonna plug pharmacutic drugs to be any more safer.Why because the chemical found some people willing to invest tons of money and do a vague couple of weeks trial to have it approved.Pharm drugs manipulate brain chemistry in the same way sreet drugs do,the manf doesent claim its curing or even sure its treating something they are aware of,all they know are the actions of their drug seem to help MASK certain symtpoms.We are not eve SURE at this point if there are any long term damage with any of them since they are all fairly new.How many people take their meds as directed by their docter and end up in trouble,how many EFFEXOR withdrawal horror stories are there?How many paxil horror stories are there?How many people enter detox on account of benzo addiction?Or perhaps tell the little girl who DIED due to serzone destroying her liver?
Do you not think some people medicate themselves from depression with MJ,and do it successfully,well i know of some.I find it hard to see how someone can be so abdenment in their warnings on "street drugs" when script drugs do pretty much the same thing.
Please, don't use illegal drugs and *try to self-medicate yourself*
Not everyone needs to be playing around with street drugs nor script drugs.However a LOT of people have had the system fail them,they waited the 6 weeks for their doc appointments,and got very poor treatment,they listened to their docs and allowed their bodies to ingest medication they simply knew by effect was making them worse.Long ago the main source of information came from a PDR,so a paitent was a a docters mercy.Now u have pub med,u have various newsgroups and tons of information at ur finger tips,why shouldent a intelligent individual who unlike a doc is willing and CAN invest up to and more than 90 percent of their time researching their disease,why would we limit oursleves to be at the mercy of a doc,who at best,even if he or she wanted to,can simply invest a mere fraction of that.Besides no docter as caring as they are will put in the blood and guts that someone will to their own treament,so WHY,WHY is their this constant believe that a patieant should do nothing without their docters consent?Have a doc play a role in ur treatment,but i dont see why u cant play a bigger one.
"The thing about phenalzine is that you have to be on a very careful diet, and there are little medications that you can mix with MAOI's.We have gone over this time and time and time again.Yess there are food restrictions,but we through tons of personal experieances have come to relaise that a small fraction of people will have problems with most foods on the list.
What we have come to learn that aside from those,the overwhelming MAJORITY of users will find certain foods here and there they personaly react to.
And we find that in general the reactions in the list for the most part are more *just to let u be aware* situation and most people will NOT have nearly as much trouble with half of them.
We have also come to learn through many maoi users right here at babble that many meds thought to be taboo in conjunction with maois can be used effectivly allowing the maois to have like ssris quite a few options to augment them with.
To portray them as having food interactions and not giving a full account as i just did,as well as portraying them as being so dangerous most meds cant be used with them as well to me seems very unfair.Comments like these have people terrified of them which is a shame cause many MANY people did NOT find them helpful as a last resort,instead found them to be the only med which effectivly brings relieaf and resent the time wasted in years pain and money simply because they were misled and not given the TRUE facts on these meds.
I redomend anyone who has been suffering,to talk to ur doc about these meds,email one of the maoi veteran users such as myself,or ace,or chairman,search groups like remedyfind,get real peoples expereiance with it,rather then the constant general overdated showndown incorrect information u find on very GENERAL websites.If u truly believe it might help,dont let diet restrictions stop u,instead find out how to approach the med and the meds side effects including diet restrictions.I wonder how many people now could find relieaf had they tried these so called taboo drugs.I agree with the comment on ssris and anti psych meds,however i dont believe the other information is posted with enough information.
Note: I also dont believe im on a "medication".Many street drugs are simply maois,also i know if i stop my drug my disease is not lessened or cured.I am told by my docter,and the company itself that the reason my drug makes me feel better is a matter of theory.However i accept the fact that i need to mask my symptpoms and keep them at bay,this although not a cure,still allows me to function and life a life closes to "normal" as i can get.I did the no drug thing,and life was much harder,so if i knew there was a drug,street drug or not,that helped with minimal risk,id be the first one there to get.I suffered enough,as well as a lot of u guys im sure,its time we get some relieaf even murderes get a last me eal in jail,i wanna be thrown a bisuit.
This as always,is one mans opinion,and i present it always as such.
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