Posted by MARTY on March 26, 2006, at 16:03:33
In reply to Re: PLZ HELP ME :~(, posted by med_empowered on March 26, 2006, at 14:21:24
> hi! OK, here's my first problem: you're not psychotic. That makes the use of an antipsychotic kind of..troublesome. You don't even have Bipolar I disorder (where neuroleptic use is sometimes helpful). I think you should try dropping the atypicals.
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In fact I'm diagnosed Bipolar 2 and they feared I could fall in many with my AD since I have an history have done so in the past.To date the AP is the only thing that help my depression. When I try to withdraw from it I fall almost instantly into suicidal depression.
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> Some people react poorly to APs, even the atypical ones. I had severe akathisia on 2.5mgs/day of Zyprexa. I decided to stop taking any and all antipsychotics instead of trying to medicate around the problem--adding drugs on top of drugs can really just create new problems.==
I'm sorry to heard that you've suffered from Akathesia. I got some for like 3 days and found it to be just a terrible experience to live.I agree to people having problems with AP. Personnally I think those meds are very dangerous and I fear them a lot. My opinion is there are making PERMANENT change to users dopaminergic neurons/receptors. The longer you take it the more change it's making, but technically I think that is start to modify you neurology even from day 1. Permanent (tardive) Dystonia, tardive Akathesia and the permenent Extrapyramid syndrome are proof of that.
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> WHy won't your doc RX clonazepam anymore? Yes, it is a controlled substance, but its also a tried-and-true treatment for problems like yours. Risperdal *IS NOT* well-established as a treatment for problems like yours, and it seems to be highly problematic. Unless you have a substance abuse problem, there's really not good reason to withdraw well-tolerated, efective treatment (also, clonazepam is much CHEAPER than risperdal, something you and your insurance company would both appreciate). My suggestion would be to find another doctor, since this one seems to be perfectly comfortable putting you through hell for no good reason.
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> Other suggestions: withdraw the atypical (but keep taking the anti-cholinergic for a little while after withdrawal), try to get on Klonopin or something similar for the anxiety, and do lots of talk therapy. Also, I know it sounds fruity and new-agey, but maybe consider nutritional and alternative methods to complement your medications; at the very least, they'll probably be harmless (and certainly more pleasant than Risperdal). At the very best, they could be quite helpful.===
About the Clonazepam thing here's what I think:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20060322/msgs/624829.htmlI've been reading about some nutritional strategy againt depression and anxiety; I'm looking forward to try soon.
Alternative methods are also interesting but I tend to have difficultier to stick with some of them like yoga and everything that demands discipline. I've tried a lot of natural product with not much results. The one usage I found interesting is to countinterac the sexual side effect on AD, AP.
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> Good luck!=== Thank you. Even if AP is helping my depression I may decide to gradually withdraw from them and search another cocktail that would be effective without atypicals... I'll keep your arguments of favor of stoping them in working the dilem...
Thanks a lot..
BTW: Any idea why you are the only one who respond ? is it because my post was WAY too long ? or is there any reason ? this was my all time first post in a forum.
Hope you're well
~Marty
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