Posted by Donna Louise on July 7, 2006, at 23:14:05
In reply to Re: EMSAM doing nothing » Donna Louise, posted by 4WD on July 7, 2006, at 18:04:36
> > > > > You think so? I wonder how the drug companies can be thaaaat far off with a medication that's already in use. Maybe the majority of people using aren't expriencing these effects, but it's the people here who are reporting them. Just a thought/hope.
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> > > > I've been on EMSAM for 11 days now with absolutely no remission of symptoms. I am as depressed , no, more depressed than before I started it. I am on the 6mg patch which I leave on 24 hours.
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> > > > I am also havin absolutely no side effects. I thought it was supposed to be stimulant. Well, I am exhausted. No energy at all. And no insomnia, either. I fall asleep fine. Actually my sleep is a bit restless but that's all. I had a few mild GI effects at first, little nausea and heartburn but that's gone.
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> > > > As far as I can tell it is doing nothing at all.
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> > > > I have been on everything else except traditional MAOIs and so I think this is the end of the road for me. There is nothing left to try and no hope for me. I am ready to go.
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> > > > Marsha
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> > > I forgot to say the one good thing about this is that since going off Celexa in order to start EMSAM, my anxiety has more or less disappeared and the pain in my neck and shoulders is much less. My husband asks me which is worse, the fear/anxiety or the depression. I say, would you rather have your right leg cut off, or your left?
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> > Marsha, you aren't ready to go, you still have your sense of humor!! That is a great answer, I get asked that all the time, now I know the perfect thing to say.
> > I hope you will give the patch a fighting chance. It takes awhile to work and I have had to go to 12mg before it is what I need it to be. I got some relief with the 6mg, more with the 9mg and right now I am pretty happy with the 12mg. so you might need more dosage, you definately need more time. So don't leave yet!
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> Hi Donna,
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> Thanks for answering. I don't know what I'd do without this board (tho I haven"t been here much in the last months _ too depressed to care). My pdoc has given me the ok to go to 9mg in two days. I will use one and a half patches of the 6 mg that I have.
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> In the meantime I will take some Zyprexa to keep myself out of the suicide pit. It's really a miracle drug for me - 5mg at night and for the next 3-4 days I feel better. Unfortunately, I'm a recovering bulimic and when I take Zyprexa, I'm once again an active bulimic. It really triggers the eating disorder.
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> Is the diet difficult for you?
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> Marsha
>The only thing that I eat that is on the diet is tofu and I still eat it and nothing happens. I suspect nothing will happen if you eat anything on the list. I believe it is the FDA's concern and what held up marketing for so long, that the one test they did with 9 and 12mg (which showed no restrictions necessary) wasn't enough to for them to feel comfortable without putting in the restrictions. I am not advocating anyone ignore following the diet, I just don't intend to. I think the real danger in the higher dosage is the greater probability to a contra-indicated drug reaction. Tht should be the focus in my opinion. The transdermal absorbtion and subsequent by pass of first pass metabolism exists as much for 12 mg as 6mg. That is the way I see, it is in the realm of possibility that I could be wrong :-)) but I don't have a problem eating tofu.
donna
donna
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