Posted by linkadge on September 27, 2006, at 19:49:18
In reply to There is no evil to Effexor. » linkadge, posted by Racer on September 27, 2006, at 18:30:44
>By definition, there is no evil side to any of >these drugs. "Evil" is a moral construct, and >morality applies to humans only.
So, satan is not evil ?
>Link, I'm sorry you don't feel that any of these >medications have helped you. I know you'd put >that more strongly, but I think that negativity >has a lot to do with your depression AND with >the cognitive distortions that feed that >depression.Thats one possability. The other is that I am bitter for what I would consider a good reason.
>There are no drugs that change pessimistic >thoughts to optimistic thoughts, and there are >no perfect drugs
I would tend to disagree. How could any antidepressant work if it did not have the ability to change pessimistic thoughts to optimistic thoughts ?
>You've chosen to reject all of the drugs >available, which is your choice.
Well I wouldn't put it that way. I'd say that they rejected me.
>For a lot of people, though, who have not made >that choice, reading unrelievably negative >assessments of these drugs -- especially when it >includes hyperbole about the permanent damage >they can do -- really isn't all that helpful.
Like I said, I am only describing what hundreds of thousands of other people worldwide have attested to, that effexor can be extrordinarily difficult to quit. If I am wrong, then so are hundreds of thousands of other people.
>Arguing about the definition of addiction isn't >all that helpful, either.
I think it is, because its the first word that comes to a lot of people's mind when considering the phenomnia. It is the medical comunity that has tried to reframe defintions in recent years in the advent of the unanticipated clinical burdon of effexor addiction.
>I'm impressed by your knowledge of these drugs, >Linkadge. Lately, though, I find I read your >posts much less frequently because I feel so >saddened and angry at the attitude your posts >seem to display.
I never asked anyone else to agree with me. Don't worry though, I will get banned soon enough. If you want to know what has made me bitter, it is the fact that my brain has a very difficult time processing the concept of unbitter in the absence of an ultrabiological sea of serotonin. I was never this chronically bitter before meds. Ever.
So, I think my attitude compliments my message.
>I have a question for you, Link: are you >working? Do you support yourself? I ask because >that sort of thing can make a huge difference in >the decision about whether or not to take these >drugs.
I currently work to pay for an education.
>I know you're considerably younger than I am, >and perhaps that perspective is why I have to >take a broader, more balanced view of these >drugs.Remember Jaroen ? He was the guy who suffered seemingly permantant movement problms related to Geodon. I say to him, keep telling your message. Does anyone say to him, "shut up, you're going to jinx it for the people who might need meds". Of course not. He was clearly messed up by the Geodon, and possably the only way that he can bring some resolution to his situation is by coming on here and warning about the dangers of the drug.
If we tell everybody who has had bad experiences on these drugs to shut up, and not share their experiences, then where are we going? I wouldn't want anyone else to go thought what Jaroen did.
Thats why, each and every signature, on one those petitions which warn about the dangers of effexor is important, becuase behind each signature, there is a face.
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