Posted by Squiggles on October 14, 2006, at 22:37:41
In reply to Re: OCD as an example » Squiggles, posted by alexandra_k on October 14, 2006, at 22:08:05
> > p.s. the social dysfunction you speak of
> > is the price that a lot of mental patients
> > have to pay
>
> so there is nothing we can do we may as well stop researching it and just accept this as an inevitable consequence of mental disorder?It varies from person to person, according to
what kind of drugs they take, what their social
position is, what demands are made of them, and whether they are poor. But in general, there is not much you can do about the side effects of drugs except change the side effects.
>
> > A friend and a sympathetic ear is consoling; group therapy is not necessarily everyone's cup of tea.
>
> sure. medication is not necessarily everyone's cup of tea either. there is stuff in individual therapy too, i picked this one because it seemed to be a SOCIAL intervention more than a PSCYHOLOGICAL intervention even.If it works for you, good.
>
> > Now, i ask you - should i have taken this person
> > to group therapy or to a dr. who gave meds?
>
> and i have to choose one and only one option?I can't think of a third, except hit her with a hypodermic full of sedatives-- not the kind of thing that is immediately available to the man-on-the-street.
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> > i hope you picked up some compassion and understood that mental illness is an illness and not a coffee table game.
>
> i never said or meant to imply it was a 'coffee table game'. do you think therapy is a 'coffee table game'?I can't say -- as i have never been to one; but i think i would feel as if i were at a social gathering-- nice for a normal state to share your problems. Actually, i think i do that on the net.
For me that is good, because i am a shy person with crowds. Maybe a one-to-one i could handle, but the only things i would ask about would be drugs anyway.
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> >Once again, most meds
> > suck, and they ruin your life and your dreams in many cases, and there is stigma. But it's all we've got right now.
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> there are other interventions too...
>
> > Group therapy sounds nice, but it cannot reverse mental illness
>
> that is an empirical matter. the data will decide. the studies haven't been done...
>If it works for you, then that's good, because
the drugs are very challenging and unpleasant.Squiggles
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