Posted by rovers95 on February 21, 2007, at 7:24:02
In reply to Re: Ketamine: a factory reset for the brain » rovers95, posted by Chairman_MAO on February 20, 2007, at 16:06:20
> Well, I really should've said "barbiturates" instead of "benzodiazepines". That is my mistake. Please find evidence that barbiturates have been shown ineffective in blocking NMDA-induced neurotoxicity. Yes, Na+ blockers are effective, but I don't like the idea of mixing and matching drugs like this. The reason I mention the benzodiazepines and barbiturates in this context is because they have been USED CLINICALLY with ketamine for years.
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> Benzodiazepines are also effective enough, IMHO, to be used by people using sane (read: not animal study) doses of ketamine. I'm not positive about this, but I don't think there's any evidence that this neurotoxicity even occurs in humans, though I've seen enough of the effects of dissociative abuse to suspect otherwise. Note that these people were using doses well in excess of what anyone should.
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> Most people would be well-advised to stay away from drugs like ketamine and MK-801. PCP is the most dangerous, but for different reasons. Memantine is much safer.
>Just wondering what are barbituates??? and do you have any links to uspport this??!!
thanks
mark
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