Posted by jhj on September 2, 2007, at 0:59:01
In reply to Re: To the people who don't believe in biological dep., posted by linkadge on September 1, 2007, at 13:26:48
Without a placebo arm, the results are kind of meaningless
This is a huge statement.there was a "remission" of depression for 70% of patients and not only improvement.If it happens by placebo effect well,i would certainly like to have this placebo.This study was conducted by National institute of mental health and not by any of those who everyday publish placebo controlled trials in numbers. Bt the way,when you read these "placebo controlled" studies on none other then "rodents" you also read the name of financer.Most of those studies are funded by NIMH.I think before you read about sequential treatment alternatives to relieve depression study,it would have been batter if you had found out something about NIMH and its reputation.By the way,i again want to say something about herbal remedies that you people are finding increasingly significant for all the diseases.I would like to recount an incidence which happened to one of my colleuge.He entered a chat room where common cold was being discussed and somebody from europe told him that neem is very good for common cold and to be fair to that person he gave links to three-four studies too.My colleuge read the studies and then started laughing.When i enquired about the reason,he showed me those studies which were similar.Those were placebo controlled trials conducted on around 50 people and the conclusion was that "This treatment looks promising and larger clinical trials are required to raplicate the findings of this study".In India,our monks and our grand mothers have been using it for thousands of years and my grandmom can tell these "scientists" by just seeing the patient's symptoms whether neem would work or not with almost 100% certainty.The only problem with our grandmothers is that they do not know anything about "peer reviewed articles" in reputed journals like "Lancet" or Patent laws.They also do not know how to use internet nor they know english so one can not find links to their studies.When western doctors preach about the virtues of herbal therapies,it looks quite funny.It is like somebody who has just learned how to hold tannis raquet in hand teaching somebody who has won multiple grandslams.Sorry if i am sounding irritating.
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