Posted by infectedmushrooms on October 3, 2007, at 0:01:34
In reply to Re: not reversible damage because of ssri treatmen, posted by linkadge on October 2, 2007, at 21:54:01
Interesting anology with parkinson's patients...
In parkinson's the cause is usually metal toxicity in the body that never gets resolved...And then drugs are taken to cover up the symptoms of parkinsons but don't get to the root of the problem leaving the individual worse off by taking the dopermergenics that increase more heavy metal toxicity in the liver and supersensitize dopamine receptors even more...
Same thing holds true with people with depression, anxiety, etc...There is a deep rooted issue like a mental toxicity from numerous causes even physical sometimes...that goes unresolved and bc our society covers up problems and doesn't like to fix them the following dilemas are faced...
Those dilemmas are...1. Possible psychological or physical dependence on the drug or drugs...
2. The underlying problem that was being covered up still isn't solved and is harder to face now without drugs due to gene expression changes...
3. Physical side effects of the drug that make the person feel like crap that they had to take drugs to begin when terrible side effects don't always go away on their own when they are told by "reliable sources" the drugs are safe
4. People telling you that it is your fault the side effects are still in you when deep down inside you know they are 100% induced by the drugs making you feel worse off than before....So in conclusion a person can end up having more problems b/c of drugs..But i can't say this holds true for everyone but it definitely holds few to many which doesn't justify a lot of thing that are currently going on with the drug industries and psychiatry...I am not against drugs...Sometimes individuals need drugs to cope or to solve unsolvable problems but all side effects should be known and thoroughly researched and an individual should have the option to choose the drug that he/she desires based on knowing all the options available and all the side effects of every drug...And a major reason for many health problems is also not using common sense in this country b/c they are not being taught common sense in med school doctors are taught a standard protocol of approaching every patient...
That is why i am glad to be living in a time where there is the internet where information is being spread at rapid speed and the truth will have to prevail eventually....
> I think there is some pretty compelling research that certain medicaitons can cause significant long term negative biological/structural changes.
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> The fact that schizophrenics are not made aware of certain issues with their medications is unsettling. Some doctors feel it is their right to make executive decisions for the patient. You can't blame them as I suppose it is as they were trained.
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> I don't understand people who are like, "well if it helps me now, who cares what it does to me long term".
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> That logic comes in degrees. Nobody would use that as an argument to start smoking crack for depression. The point is that the brain has coping mechanisms designed to let go of things that are far enough in the future. While that may work for things beyond ones control one would need to be thourogly convinced that such risks are indeed beyond ones control.
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> What if the drug makes the brain worse long term in a way that will make it harder to recover for subsequent mood episodes? I'd hate think that my stint with SSRI's is the reason depression is even harder shake now. Its like I can't function without one, even years after being off them.
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> If it was just dammaging my liver that'd be ok, but the notion that I might be damaging my serotonin neurons in a way that makes recovery from depression harder in the future is pretty scary. The hole for me is indeed deeper after having been exposed to the drugs, who knows.
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> Perhaps its just like how some parkinsons meds actually cause the disease to progress faster than it might if no treatment was initiated.
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